The French are no fighting like dogs to get hold of the latest number of the magazine.
Some are selling the latest issue for over $500 on ebay.:eek: and some are willing to sell sex to get hold of the latest issue.
Yeah, those asshole terrorists sure did succeed… in turning an obscure French periodical about to go bankrupt into a world-wide phenomenon with a fat bank account.
The world is fighting to get a hold of the latest issue…which means that the cowardly attack on unarmed artists and writers has backfired tremendously.
And a reduced payroll.
Too soon?
Yeah, you’re going to hell. 
Shareholders and creditors of print periodicals … take note? 
- Buy small, obscure periodical.
- Stage terrorist attack.
- Profit!
Oh, the vulgarity!
(FYI, for non-Americans in the audience, this is a reference to a famous audio clip from the Hindenburg disaster.)
Hopefully the radicals will see that they can continue their faith and respect of their prophet while the rest of the world enjoys the satire. Both things can happen at the same time…no killing necessary.
The media has a responsibility to help their audience understand issues. Seeing the cartoons in context is very much something that the media needs to be doing, so that their readership understands. Not publishing the cartoons is, in my opinion, cowardice, and is giving those terrorists what they wanted.
Yup. When your normal print run is 60,000 copies, and you get to do a run of three million–and expect to sell them all–it’s hard to say the attack succeeded in killing Charlie hebdo, nor in “avenging” Muhammad.
I wonder how many people would defend the right to publicly burn Torah scrolls - which is, religiously, about on par with that caricature - and call those cowards who refuse to participate. If you want to demonstrate for anyone’s right to life regardless of character, I certainly have no objections. But there need to be - and, for other groups, are - limits to what can rightfully be expressed.
No, it would be on par with burning the Quran.
I agree that it’s not an attack on freedom of speech. Everyone keeps forgetting what freedom of speech is. It is not a moral value. It is a restriction on the government in restricting your speech, lest they be able to use that ability for tyranny.
You do not have a moral right to be an asshole. You do have a right not to be killed for being an asshole, but that’s just because you have a right not to be killed. It’s not a freedom of speech issue.
Threatening to kill someone because they have said things you find offensive is not a freedom of speech issue. It’s a “thou shalt not kill” issue. It’s threatening to kill people that is wrong, not the part where you are upset at their speech.
The idea that you have a right to be a complete asshole is false. It is a right championed by assholes. You have a right not to be killed.
If freedom of speech were a moral right, having moderators on messageboard would be immoral. Kicking your friend out for saying shit about your mother would be immoral. None of us think that freedom of speech is really a moral issue.
Noooo…drawing a cartoon of someone burning Torah scrolls might be on par with the Charlie caricature.
Let me simplify this for you: When Elmer Fudd shoots Daffy Duck, no real animals are harmed. Understood?
Things can be on par with more than one other thing. The prohibition of depictions of Mohammed and reverence to Torah scrolls are both, within their respective religions, highly sacred values.
Amen.
Actually, no, the Quran is usually a book printed on paper and can cost pennies to produce. Each torah scroll is a work of art, is hand-written on parchment with enormous attention to detail and ceremony, takes a huge effort and time to produce, and costs thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of dollars. So yes, it is a much bigger travesty to burn a torah scroll.
But I pretty much assure you that if anyone did that, there would be no murderous terrorist Jews killing the perpetrators. So - how do you explain the difference in reactions?
All blasphemy is the same, to the believer. As I am not a believer, I cannot be held to those standards. Those whose faith is so weak it is threatened by cartoons have no justification to seek vengeance for a code I never agreed to.
I disagree. The prohibition of depicting Mohammed IS a real value to Muslims, while there is, to the best of my knowledge, no explicit law in Judaism against showing pictures of burning Torah scrolls.