# The authority of the gavel.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-authority-of-the-gavel/430891>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [December 22, 2007, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-authority-of-the-gavel/430891 "2007-12-22T02:08:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-authority-of-the-gavel/430891/1 "2007-12-22T02:08:15Z")

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Does the banging of the gavel have any legal authority, or is it merely ceremonial?  
What I mean is, if a judge doesn’t bang it, does the decision stand nevertheless? Could the person demand a retrial based on the judge’s omission?  
Also, is “bang” the right word? Sounds kinda crude. I offer “whack” instead. 😉  
Peace,  
mangeorge

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-authority-of-the-gavel/430891/2 "2007-12-22T02:13:25Z")

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[QUOTE=mangeorge]  
Does the banging of the gavel have any legal authority, or is it merely ceremonial?  
What I mean is, if a judge doesn’t bang it, does the decision stand nevertheless? Could the person demand a retrial based on the judge’s omission?  
Also, is “bang” the right word? Sounds kinda crude. I offer “whack” instead. 😉  
Peace,  
mangeorge  
[/QUOTE]

Well, I have no legal knowledge or real cites… but I hope you don’t mind if I offer a WAG on an interesting question.

Probably the use of the gavel to ‘punctuate rulings and proclamations’ in a court is only a matter of custom, not a legal requirement. However, if it is being **struck** by the judge to call for attention or encourage compsure among the population of a courtroom, ignoring it could be construed as showing contempt for the court.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-authority-of-the-gavel/430891/3 "2007-12-22T02:33:22Z")

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The gavel doesn’t have any bearing on the legalities of the case. The few times I’ve been in courtrooms, the judge never used it. It could be used to signal a session is over, or to get the attention of the gallery, but is just a dignfied way for the judge to do the equivalent of shouting, “Hey, you!”

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-authority-of-the-gavel/430891/4 "2007-12-22T02:46:11Z")

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How about this: Why is it called a “gavel” and not a “mallet” or “hammer”?

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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-authority-of-the-gavel/430891/5 "2007-12-22T05:57:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Phase42]  
How about this: Why is it called a “gavel” and not a “mallet” or “hammer”?  
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It’s French. From France.

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**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-authority-of-the-gavel/430891/6 "2007-12-22T06:05:19Z")

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[QUOTE=mangeorge]  
It’s French. From France.  
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No, it isn’t. “Middle English, from Old English gafol; akin to Old English giefan to give.” (Merriam-Webster).

The French word is “marteau,” I’m told. Rather like the Latin-derived “mallet.”

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-authority-of-the-gavel/430891/7 "2007-12-22T06:06:51Z")

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[QUOTE=mangeorge]  
It’s French. From France.  
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As opposed to French, from, say, Berkley?

:smack:

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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-authority-of-the-gavel/430891/8 "2007-12-22T06:14:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Santo Rugger]  
As opposed to French, from, say, Berkley?

:smack:  
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Yeah. People in Berkeley speak french better than those in France. More authentic.  
Now take the French Canadians.  
Please.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-authority-of-the-gavel/430891/9 "2007-12-22T12:07:48Z")

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Incidentally, you cannot persuade TV and movie people of this, but Canadian judges do not use gavels.

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-authority-of-the-gavel/430891/10 "2007-12-22T12:24:45Z")

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[QUOTE=matt\_mcl]  
Incidentally, you cannot persuade TV and movie people of this, but Canadian judges do not use gavels.  
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But they speak French, which is more than you can say for the judges in Berkeley.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-authority-of-the-gavel/430891/11 "2007-12-22T13:40:45Z")

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[QUOTE=matt\_mcl]  
Incidentally, you cannot persuade TV and movie people of this, but Canadian judges do not use gavels.  
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Yeah they do! It was in _Strange Brew_, made nigh on twenty-five years ago. A Canadian judge, in a _Canadian film_!

Tripler  
And the judge speaks more French than those in Berkeley.
