# The Bad Family is expelled from New Zealand

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 18, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005 "2019-01-18T21:42:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/1 "2019-01-18T21:42:33Z")

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[The tourists from hell](https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/01/new-zealand-tourists-john-johnson-tina-cash-arrest.html)\* wreak havoc on the tiny nation.

\*And yeah, I also guessed wrong about their nationality.

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**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/2 "2019-01-18T21:58:29Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> \*And yeah, I also guessed wrong about their nationality.

Well, yeah; the English ones are normally attempting to trash Spain instead.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/3 "2019-01-19T00:50:46Z")

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> [@Filbert](#):
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> Well, yeah; the English ones are normally attempting to trash Spain instead.

I blame Peter Jackson.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/4 "2019-01-19T02:23:19Z")

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> [@Filbert](#):
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> Well, yeah; the English ones are normally attempting to trash Spain instead.

To be fair, we suspect that many of the “English” tourists are actually from other places, but once they’re drunk enough and trying to crack heads open (their own or those of others), we don’t care whose they are: we just want them out of our hands.

Regarding the article, a unicorn onesie? On a person who already gets measured vertically? That alone should be a crime!

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/5 "2019-01-19T02:53:55Z")

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From Auckland “all the way” to Hamilton? About 120km with nothing of note in between. Barely worth mentioning.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/6 "2019-01-19T05:56:55Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> From Auckland “all the way” to Hamilton? About 120km with nothing of note in between. Barely worth mentioning.

Won’t somebody please think of the sheep?

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**Author:** ![filmstar-en](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@filmstar-en](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmstar-en)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/7 "2019-01-19T12:01:55Z")

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Every AirB&B operators nightmare.

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**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/8 "2019-01-19T15:48:28Z")

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And no one ever mentions the good visitors. November of 2013 my wife and I were on vacation in New Zealand, we were towards the end of a 2 week drive around the south island. We had stopped in the small town of Lake Tekapo, my wife wanted some pictures of a church near the lake. We arrived at the church just as a wedding party was finishing up. A few minutes later 2 busloads of Japanese tourists pulled into the church parking lot. They poured out of the buses, most with largish tablets taking pictures. Soon they had surrounded the wedding party and they became the focus of their cameras. The young Kiwi couple were happy to oblige. A couple of older Japanese gentlemen went among the rest of their group collection money and gave it to the newlyweds as a gift. That was one of the very cool moments of that vacation, I’ll bet the young couple will never forget it.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/9 "2019-01-19T16:01:10Z")

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> “Japanese tourists are some of New Zealand’s highest-spending visitors and encouraging more to travel to New Zealand has benefits for both the airline and the country’s tourism industry,” (the Air New Zealand general manager) said.
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> The airline had a target to double visits from Japan by 2019…
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> The launch in Japan of movie The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug in late February was likely to increase interest, he said.

[http://stuff.co.nz/travel/destinations/nz/9735269/Campaign-to-entice-Japanese-visitors](http://stuff.co.nz/travel/destinations/nz/9735269/Campaign-to-entice-Japanese-visitors)

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/10 "2019-01-19T20:42:10Z")

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Is this real? This article seems like something out of the Onion. Something like those killer clown attacks a while back.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/11 "2019-01-19T20:53:23Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> Is this real? This article seems like something out of the Onion. Something like those killer clown attacks a while back.

…100% completely real. Its been fairly astonishing watching it play out in real time here: every day a new story about “the bad family”, each just slightly worse than the one before.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/12 "2019-01-19T20:54:13Z")

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Somebody should have kicked their asses.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/13 "2019-01-19T21:03:46Z")

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> [@racer72](#):
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> And no one ever mentions the good visitors.

Why should they? Why should anyone get a special mention for doing the least it takes to be a decent human being?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/14 "2019-01-19T22:43:58Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Why should they? Why should anyone get a special mention for doing the least it takes to be a decent human being?

For some of us, it takes remarkable fortitude.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/15 "2019-01-20T07:41:12Z")

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For some reason I find that article to be delightful.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/16 "2019-01-20T08:06:20Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> Is this real? This article seems like something out of the Onion. Something like those killer clown attacks a while back.

I’ve encountered several instances of tourists whose clueless rudeness was only surpassed by their rude cluelessness; sometimes they’re not even foreign ones. The kind of people that you’d think were exaggerated if you saw them in a movie. Nope, they’re real and they’ve got the right to vote.

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**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/17 "2019-01-20T10:44:17Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I blame Peter Jackson.

They were looking for fellow orcs?

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/18 "2019-01-20T15:36:29Z")

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I’ll take your word that they’re real, but I didn’t question the veracity of the story because I didn’t think people would behave so rudely. I questioned the veracity because I found it unlikely that New Zealand’s news media would spontaneously follow a single tourist family around hoping they would do rude things. It seems like a set up.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/19 "2019-01-20T17:19:48Z")

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Errrr… some English tourists can be dead frightening. Those Scouse lads grow big. Americans are full of hot air and lite beer. Hooligans arn’t.

Edit: And i put Scouse in there before I read the article.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bad-family-is-expelled-from-new-zealand/828005/20 "2019-01-20T18:12:42Z")

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Is it true that New Zealanders _“…actively despise every single tourist who dares to come and enjoy all the stuff we promised was so great…”_? Or is that a bit of hyperbole added for comedic intent?

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