# The Banning of Starving Artist

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291>\
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**Created:** [October 1, 2018, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291 "2018-10-01T23:18:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/61 "2018-10-02T05:53:35Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> … people hate change.

And [being castrated and fed to swine](https://www.dailywire.com/news/36532/georgetown-professor-says-white-republicans-should-joseph-curl). They hate that too.

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**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/62 "2018-10-02T06:10:14Z")

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If Tu quoque, is latin for ‘you also’. What is the latin for ‘_one random person out of 325.7 million people the US who fits my argument despite having no power or relevance to the topic at hand also_’? - Need answer fast!!!

Thank you moderators, you have a truly thankless job.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Todd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8797f3/32.png) [@Wee\_Todd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Todd)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/63 "2018-10-02T06:15:48Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> And [being castrated and fed to swine](https://www.dailywire.com/news/36532/georgetown-professor-says-white-republicans-should-joseph-curl). They hate that too.

Well that’s just mean. They definitely shouldn’t be castrated before being fed to swine. The genitals are one of the swine’s favorite parts!

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/64 "2018-10-02T06:17:43Z")

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> [@rat\_avatar](#):
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> If Tu quoque, is latin for ‘you also’. What is the latin for ‘_one random person out of 325.7 million people the US who fits my argument despite having no power or relevance to the topic at hand also_’? - Need answer fast!!! …

Would finding a second racist, sexist SJW invalidate your argument? A separate question, how many would I have to find to change your opinion?

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/65 "2018-10-02T06:21:47Z")

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> [@Wee\_Todd](#):
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> Well that’s just mean. They definitely shouldn’t be castrated before being fed to swine. The genitals are one of the swine’s favorite parts!

This post would appear to tread dangerously close to this one of the board’s prohibitions: “[Do not post threats or state or imply that any individual or group is deserving of harm.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/faq.php?faq=vb3_board_faq)”

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**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/66 "2018-10-02T06:30:51Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Would finding a second racist, sexist SJW invalidate your argument? A separate question, how many would I have to find to change your opinion?

Nope, there will always be sexists and people with less than savory ideas. The idea is to ensure they don’t apply that hate to the country as a whole.

I am not naive enough to even think your offer provides any solution that is possible.

To quote James Madison in Federalist No. 10

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> The inference to which we are brought is, that the CAUSES of faction cannot be removed, and that relief is only to be sought in the means of controlling its EFFECTS

The plural of ad hominem is not evidence anyway.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/67 "2018-10-02T06:44:56Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> And [being castrated and fed to swine](https://www.dailywire.com/news/36532/georgetown-professor-says-white-republicans-should-joseph-curl). They hate that too.

Yes, the hatred **actions** towards women is justified because straight white men are getting their **fweelings** hurt by a non-straight white male’s words.

Because the **actions** of hatred toward non-straight white males is completely nulled by the **words** of a non-straight white male.

Duh.

The straight white male **feels** less powerful and that is **way way more important** than the hateful **actions** the straight white male has taken against the non-straight white male.

Please, keep arguing that straight white males should dominate and control all thoughts and actions of non-straight white males.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/68 "2018-10-02T06:47:00Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> And [being castrated and fed to swine](https://www.dailywire.com/news/36532/georgetown-professor-says-white-republicans-should-joseph-curl). {…}

An entirely unreasonable reaction, what ya should do that is not an entirely unreasonable reaction is…

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Todd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8797f3/32.png) [@Wee\_Todd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Todd)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/69 "2018-10-02T06:56:47Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> This post would appear to tread dangerously close to this one of the board’s prohibitions: “[Do not post threats or state or imply that any individual or group is deserving of harm.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/faq.php?faq=vb3_board_faq)”

I’m just thinking of the swine, man. It wasn’t my suggestion that anyone be fed to swine. Just that if you do that, it’s best to leave the genitals on, because otherwise it’s like feeding muffin stumps to homeless people.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/70 "2018-10-02T06:57:46Z")

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> [@rat\_avatar](#):
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> … The plural of ad hominem is not evidence anyway.

It wasn’t an ad hominem, but it’s good to know that you don’t really care if there are 10 or 10,000 or 10,000,000 Christine Fairs on your side. At the very least, I trust we’ve dispensed with that “one random person” nonsense.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/71 "2018-10-02T06:59:40Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> … Please, keep arguing that straight white males should dominate and control all thoughts and actions of non-straight white males.

That wasn’t even remotely my argument.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/72 "2018-10-02T07:01:08Z")

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How your argument is framed by others is what matters…

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/73 "2018-10-02T07:07:47Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> How your argument is framed by others is what matters…

I know, and now that Starving Artist is banned, I suspect the mob will move on to other targets.

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**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/74 "2018-10-02T07:08:33Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> It wasn’t an ad hominem, but it’s good to know that you don’t really care if there are 10 or 10,000 or 10,000,000 Christine Fairs on your side. At the very least, I trust we’ve dispensed with that “one random person” nonsense.

Ah now you moved on to adding straw-man, go back and look where I even defended the remarks by that person.

Tu quoque is a form of ad hominem BTW.

The moral character or actions of the opponent are generally irrelevant to the logic of the argument, the moral character or actions of third parties are even more so.

Until you can show that the inverse of sexism, institutionalized protection of sex offenders and rape invalidation is anything more than treating people equally in society and under due process and the law this will hold true.

Feel free to open a thread on this in GD and I’ll expand on it unless you subscribe to the “White genocide conspiracy theory” then please open one in the pit.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/75 "2018-10-02T07:12:56Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I know, and now that Starving Artist is banned, I suspect the mob will move on to other targets.

Are you saying you were hiding underneath SA’s petticoat, and now it’s gone off to the Goodwill Shop, you are going to be a likely target?

Yeah, I can see that, I really can.

Ain’t no mob though.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/76 "2018-10-02T07:14:05Z")

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I would think only openly-hostile misogynists should worry, if an openly-hostile misogynist jerk gets banned for his openly-hostile misogyny.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/77 "2018-10-02T07:26:42Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I know, and now that Starving Artist is banned, I suspect the mob will move on to other targets.

Are you attempting to paint a bullseye on yourself?

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/78 "2018-10-02T07:48:57Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Are you attempting to paint a bullseye on yourself?

Nah, he’s attempting to set up a “defense”. Something along the lines of “I was unpopular, that’s why I was warned/suspended/banned”. Whatever other reasons are given, that’ll be his contention.

Myself, I believe the mods when they say they don’t ban by popular demand - but it they don’t pay attention to who’s being pitted, and why, I’d be very surprised. And sometimes, people are unpopular for very good, and very bannable, reasons.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/79 "2018-10-02T07:53:26Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Are you attempting to paint a bullseyehttps://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/images/editor/menupop.gif on yourself?

Just call him [URL=“[bummer of a birthmark hal - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=bummer+of+a+birthmark+hal&client=firefox-b-ab&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=ABeg4-ln8nC64M%253A%252ChLMNDcNL-p6xaM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQ8HaxbYvm-e9uD-O2qhu4_d642Xg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwinkrSVo-fdAhWOFogKHX1sDqcQ9QEwAHoECAUQBA#imgrc=ABeg4-ln8nC64M:)”]

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-starving-artist/822291/80 "2018-10-02T07:58:03Z")

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Add me to the long list of people saying “Thanks, Mods.”

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