# The Beatles were overrated
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [August 7, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022 "2017-08-07T18:19:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Squallous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squallous)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/1 "2017-08-07T18:19:51Z")
John Lennon especially. Pompous wanker.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/2 "2017-08-07T18:21:38Z")
Wow. That was convincing.
Next time, show your work.
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### Author:  [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/3 "2017-08-07T18:22:35Z")
Shouldn’t we be in CS or GD?
Anyway, reasonable minds can differ. FWIW, I’m a fan.
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### Author:  [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/4 "2017-08-07T18:25:37Z")
Most overrated band in history, apparently.
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### Author:  [@Squallous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squallous)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/5 "2017-08-07T18:28:54Z")
> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Wow. That was convincing.
> Next time, show your work.
Check which forum we’re in, Einstein. My post was was mundane, pointless, and I felt I must share it. Case. Closed.
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### Author:  [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/6 "2017-08-07T18:31:22Z")
First, anything related to the arts belongs in Cafe Society. I’ll move the thread.
Second, watch your tone. Snarky insults are prohibited except in the Pit forum. No warning Issued.
> [@Squallous](#):
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> Check which forum we’re in, Einstein. My post was was mundane, pointless, and I felt I must share it. Case. Closed.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/7 "2017-08-07T18:32:57Z")
> [@Squallous](#):
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> Check which forum we’re in, Einstein. My post was was mundane, pointless, and I felt I must share it. Case. Closed.
It’s about a music group. Cafe Society.
It’s about the greatness and influence of a music group. Great Debates.
I will agree that claiming the Beatles are overrated is rather pointless. 😃
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### Author:  [@Squallous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squallous)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/8 "2017-08-07T18:42:09Z")
Oh for goodness sake, I didn’t want a discussion, I don’t want debate, I wanted to share something mundane and POINTLESS. Why did you move it out of the most appropriate forum? Jeez.
Either move it back or just close it please. Double plus eyeroll.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/9 "2017-08-07T18:48:10Z")
> [@Squallous](#):
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> Oh for goodness sake, I didn’t want a discussion, I don’t want debate, I wanted to share something mundane and POINTLESS. Why did you move it out of the most appropriate forum? Jeez.
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> Either move it back or just close it please. Double plus eyeroll.
Being a Beatles denier is hard work.
You’ll just have to carry that weight.
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### Author:  [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/10 "2017-08-07T18:48:13Z")
I agree! Also, Rush and Grateful Dead.
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### Author:  [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/11 "2017-08-07T18:56:14Z")
> [@Squallous](#):
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> Oh for goodness sake, I didn’t want a discussion, I don’t want debate, I wanted to share something mundane and POINTLESS. Why did you move it out of the most appropriate forum? Jeez.
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> Either move it back or just close it please. Double plus eyeroll.
It doesn’t work that way here.
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### Author:  [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/12 "2017-08-07T18:58:02Z")
> [@Squallous](#):
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> Oh for goodness sake, I didn’t want a discussion, I don’t want debate, I wanted to share something mundane and POINTLESS. Why did you move it out of the most appropriate forum? Jeez.
>
> Either move it back or just close it please. Double plus eyeroll.
Then get a blog. Or post a tweet.
You posted here because you you knew it would get more attention.
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### Author:  [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/13 "2017-08-07T19:06:32Z")
I suggest you read the forum descriptions. Cafe Society is where all discussions of the arts (no matter how expansive or trivial they are) belong.
In addition, discussion of moderator actions belongs over PM/email or in ATMB, not in the thread being moderated.
Finally, you need to moderate your tone, or you will get warnings instead of mod notes. So drop this here, and if you don’t care about this thread anymore, simply don’t post in it.
ETA: I’ll let the Cafe Society mods take it from here.
> [@Squallous](#):
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> Oh for goodness sake, I didn’t want a discussion, I don’t want debate, I wanted to share something mundane and POINTLESS. Why did you move it out of the most appropriate forum? Jeez.
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> Either move it back or just close it please. Double plus eyeroll.
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### Author:  [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/14 "2017-08-07T19:08:54Z")
While I personally don’t consider them to be “gods” as some do, and I believe many of their contributions to popular music as a whole would have inevitably occurred eventually from someone else, it is an unavoidable and undeniable fact that they DID make those contributions, and they consistently produced near-universally popular, high-quality, and continually varied and evolving music throughout their careers. They are consistently ranked at or very near the top of any “greatest bands of all time” list and they are, by almost any measure, not over- or under-, but rather rated **just right**.
ETA: And even if John Lennon _was_ a pompous wanker, he earned the right to be. If you’re looking for someone who definitely _is_ a pompous wanker, and is not talented enough to back it up, see Sting.
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### Author:  [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/15 "2017-08-07T19:13:53Z")
> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I agree! Also, Rush and Grateful Dead.
You’re not my friend anymore!
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### Author:  [@Reddy\_Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reddy_Mercury)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/16 "2017-08-07T19:14:14Z")
The Beatles were innovators. They are not “overrated” in the traditional sense of the word. The fact that they innovated many concepts of rock can’t be denied. But putting them on a pedestal because of the fact that they were innovative is what is problematic. The Beatles did many amazing things, but later bands took what they did and did it better.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/17 "2017-08-07T19:19:40Z")
> [@Reddy\_Mercury](#):
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> The Beatles were innovators. They are not “overrated” in the traditional sense of the word. The fact that they innovated many concepts of rock can’t be denied. But putting them on a pedestal because of the fact that they were innovative is what is problematic. **The Beatles did many amazing things, but later bands took what they did and did it better.**
But would they have done it at all? Once someone does something new, it can be examined for improvement.
Even Newton said he saw further because he stood on the shoulders of giants.
[Wikiquote](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton)
> [@](#):
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> If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants.
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### Author:  [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/18 "2017-08-07T19:21:35Z")
I’ve heard of them. (music group from a couple decades back, right?) But I can’t agree they’re over rated – hell, I can’t even find anything by them on Youtube.
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### Author:  [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/19 "2017-08-07T19:21:47Z")
Don’t we do this discussion like every year so? It sure feels like it.
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### Author:  [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles-were-overrated/793022/20 "2017-08-07T19:23:53Z")
> [@Squallous](#):
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> Oh for goodness sake, I didn’t want a discussion, I don’t want debate, I wanted to share something mundane and POINTLESS. Why did you move it out of the most appropriate forum? Jeez.
>
> Either move it back or just close it please. Double plus eyeroll.
Here, I’ll hold your glasses.
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