# The Beatles

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles/13151>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 21, 2000, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles/13151 "2000-01-21T19:19:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2000, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles/13151/21 "2000-01-23T04:13:00Z")

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A little OT, but this thread reminded me of a long-standing question I’ve been carrying around: was the White Album really that revolutionary in its day? Some of it sounds pretty campy now, but _Helter Skelter_ still raises the hairs on the back of my neck once in a while. But maybe I’m just a musical novice.

DHR

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_Exits, pursued by a bear_

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**Author:** ![Poto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ab992/32.png) [@Poto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poto)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2000, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles/13151/22 "2000-01-23T04:50:00Z")

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Yankee: I guess I said most of it there already.

VH1 junkie–never was one. Beatles junkie maybe. I can enjoy music just fine without the distracting video. Comes from some 30 years of non-video listening.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles/13151/23 "2000-01-27T16:52:00Z")

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Actually, MJ does not own the Beatles catalog anymore - he sold it to Sony for about $100 million (MJ has out-of-court settlements he needs to pay off). And even tho Paul and the Lennon estate do not control the rights to the songs anymore, they still get a big fat paycheck every so often for having been the writers. And John said in his Playboy interviews that he made sure during the dissolution of the Beatles that George and Ringo got a cut of the royalties also.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles/13151/24 "2000-01-27T17:31:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Doghouse Reilly:  
> \*\*A little OT, but this thread reminded me of a long-standing question I’ve been carrying around: was the White Album really that revolutionary in its day?  
> DHR  
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Nah…Captain Beefheart had already made SAFE AS MILK in 1967, and would release TROUT MASK REPLICA in 1969.

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**Author:** ![omni-not](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8dc957/32.png) [@omni-not](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omni-not)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2000, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles/13151/25 "2000-01-28T06:54:00Z")

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John Corrado: search no longer. I’ve got the perfect one for you and it’s called “Why don’t we do it in the road?” 🙂

Sunbear writes:

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> Of Lennon songs, In my Life is so general in its feelings that Sammy Davis could sing it convincingly, so it’s low on my list.

Sun, _sun_, **sun**!!! And you call yourself a hard core Beatles fan… For shame! In My Life is simply one of the best Lennon songs.

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**Author:** ![Myron\_Van\_Horowitzski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Myron\_Van\_Horowitzski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myron_Van_Horowitzski)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles/13151/26 "2000-01-27T20:12:00Z")

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ot  
Torch me if I’m wrong, but was not “Til There Was You” written by Meredith Wilson for _The Music Man?_  
/ot

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**Author:** ![Poto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ab992/32.png) [@Poto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poto)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2000, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles/13151/27 "2000-01-28T00:38:00Z")

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Well, I have very high standards for Lennon. He himself labeled many of his songs as not meaningful to himself anymore. In my life he seemed to have liked. McCartney I let get away with some more bubblegum types of tunes, as long as it had a good beat and you could dance to it.  
The songs I like the most are the ones that sound like group efforts. Even some pretty lame lyrics, as long as they sounded like they had a good time.Some on Let it be.

I dunno, I even like Louie Louie, so I guess I want songs that don’t pretend to be deep.

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**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2000, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-beatles/13151/28 "2000-01-28T01:00:00Z")

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One evening in a chemically induced reverie I had a pseudo-epiphany that the White Album was done as a tribute/campy satire (fine line here) of American folk and pop traditoons-- every song on the album is strongly referential of some 'Merikan musical trope.

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