# The best movie that no one saw

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 30, 2002, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871 "2002-03-30T04:03:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/81 "2002-04-02T14:59:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Baldwin \*  
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> _Knightriders_, a 1980 George Romero movie. I can’t really say it’s a good movie, but it has a strange fascination for me and was one of my first DVD’s. It has an interesting early performance by a yound Ed Harris. This one is probably pretty well known among people in the SCA.  
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I remember seeing that one. Didn’t it start out with Ed Harris suiting himself up in armor as the opening credits rolled, then show him starting up a Harley? I also remember some scene where he was beating somebody up in a McDonald’s and the cashier kept totalling up all the damages. I also remember some black bald hippie dude they got to play Merlin. He was like, totally awesome.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/82 "2002-04-02T15:06:54Z")

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> In the words of Dexter Gordon “Mgmhkhls bluqhhhs sgrllmb pikygt”. I think I needed subtitles for the English speaker, not the French ones.

Touchee, **BobT**.

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> hey, lady kneadtoknow, i think round midnight is a great, great movie. im a big jazz fan, and a big dexter gordon fan, and that movie is beautiful.

And for you, **essvee** , a special award for confusing the hell out of anybody who hasn’t seen the movie about my gender. _Mazel tov!_

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**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/83 "2002-04-02T16:16:24Z")

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They Live was a pretty tight movie!

Incidently DADDY the serial killers were Henry Lee Lucas and something Otoole. The otoole fella was the same guy who killed john walshes son, adam.

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/84 "2002-04-02T22:25:16Z")

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Yep, Knowed Out, **Knightriders** was about a traveling troupe of lunatics who joust and sword-fight on motorcycles, taking names from fantasy and legend. (Merlin was played by Brother Blue, an oral storyteller who appears at folk festivals around the country.) The group undergoes a crisis about whether to keep doing things the way they like, making just enough money putitng on exhibitions, or take a lucrative contract and allow themselves to be “packaged”. According to the commentary on the DVD, the director, George Romero (of **Night of the Living Dead** fame) he had in mind the conflict between independent and studio film-making, or the overall conflict between art as art and art as product.

I’d like to throw in a 1991 TV-movie called **Blood Ties**. It was one of the most intelligent treatments of the idea of vampires that I’ve seen. It looks like a series pilot, but nothing came of it. Check it out on IMDB.

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**Author:** ![Rubicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58f4c7/32.png) [@Rubicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubicon)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/85 "2002-04-02T23:52:52Z")

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Manhunter (aka Red Dragon) is almost as good as its sister movie, Silence of the Lambs.

At Close Range is a great Sean Penn/Christopher Walken movie that gets lost in the shuffle of stupid “Fatal Basic Attracting Suspicion”-type titles.

Duel is good early Spielberg, and qualifies for this category if the classic The Conversation does.

And if you define good as bad, my favorite really, really bad movie that deserves more of a cult following than it receives is Eve of Destruction.

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**Author:** ![drpepper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@drpepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drpepper)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2002, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/86 "2002-04-05T02:38:58Z")

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Another vote for ‘The Red Violin’ ; one of the best movies I have ever seen.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2002, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/87 "2002-04-06T15:52:21Z")

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**The Twelve Chairs** - Mel Brooks’ first feature film. Shot behind the Iron Curtain, with Mel, Dom DeLouise, Ron Moody and an incredibly young and tasty Frank Langella. Bring kleenex, you will laugh until you weep.

**Yessongs**. Hey, it’s a feature length film 😃

\*\* The Stunt Man\*\*. Peter O’Toole, Steve Railsback, Chuck Bail, Barbara Hershey. GREAT film, about…hmm…1983? Clever script, great shooting, amusing jokes. It took Richard Rush, the writer/director more than a decade to get funding for it. The VietNam era backstory is a bit droll, but over all it is brilliant.

Cartooniverse

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2002, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/88 "2002-04-06T22:45:27Z")

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You know that feeling that you get when all your possibilities get shot down one-by-one as you read down the thread? ☹ And then that feeling you get when you realize there are still a couple of movies left unmentioned? 😃

**Sugarland Express** , Speilbergs first major picture.

**Restoration** , starring Robert Downey Jr. as a doctor in 17th century England, and Sam Neill as a newly restored Charles the 2nd.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2002, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/89 "2002-04-06T23:18:59Z")

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\*\*Return to Paradise \*\* is a wonderful little film. It does make you think and boy, does Joquin Phonix do an outstanding job in that movie.

I just watched last night - i know it is popular here - **Office Space** Dear God in Heaven, that was funny.

another sleeper hit that I adore \*\*Hopscotch \*\* with Walter Matthau and Glenda Jackson. A CIA agent that quits his job to write his memoirs…hijicks follow.

And no, the answer here to the above question “Don’t any of you have HBO” Nope. We are cheap 😃

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**Author:** ![Dignan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@Dignan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dignan)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2002, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/90 "2002-04-07T02:28:52Z")

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**Bottle Rocket** – it was written by the same guys that wrote Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums (Wes Anderson and Owen Wilson) with a lot of the same actors.

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**Author:** ![Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Glory)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2002, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/91 "2002-04-07T05:55:57Z")

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> Nobody seems to have ever seen(or will admit to having seen) UHF before either, absolutely hilarious.

You get to drink from the fire hose!

Yay!

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**Author:** ![dew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@dew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dew)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2002, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/92 "2002-04-07T21:48:01Z")

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The best movie of all time that nobody saw…

[The Shawshank Redemption](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0111161)  
Red Violin was good.

Will rent Stricktly Ballroom (Iv’e become a Baz Luhrman fan - can’t believe he wasn’t nominated for best director for Muelin Rouge).

Dinner Game is love it or hate it.

[I Am Sam](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0277027) was very touching, but got great publicity.

[The Usual Suspects](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0114814) is different and worth a see.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2002, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/93 "2002-04-07T22:13:25Z")

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I cannot figure out why **The Shawshank Redemption** is mentioned in this thread. Almost everyone has seen it.

My vote would go to **Babette’s Feast**. Dignan beat me to **Bottle Rocket** , quite naturally considering his screen name is one of the characters in the movie.

Looking over this thread and realizing that I’ve seen many of these, I feel the need to ask. If a person has seen X% of these films, then is he a movie geek? If so, what percentage qualifies?

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2002, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/94 "2002-04-07T22:14:32Z")

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I cannot figure out why **The Shawshank Redemption** is mentioned in this thread. Almost everyone has seen it.

My vote would go to **Babette’s Feast**. **Dignan** beat me to **Bottle Rocket** , quite naturally considering his screen name is one of the characters in the movie.

Looking over this thread and realizing that I’ve seen many of these, I feel the need to ask. If a person has seen X% of these films, then is he a movie geek? If so, what percentage qualifies?

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2002, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/95 "2002-04-07T22:20:29Z")

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Homebrew,

How many of the films given in my list (in the link below) have you seen?

[http://www.dcfilmsociety.org/rv\_wendell200.htm](http://www.dcfilmsociety.org/rv_wendell200.htm)

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2002, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/96 "2002-04-08T00:28:08Z")

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Lots of good suggestions in this thread.

Two I haven’t seen mentioned are

_[Breaker Morant](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0080310)_, a 1980 film set during the Boer War; directed by Bruce Beresford, stars Edward Woodward, Jack Thompson and Bryan Brown.

_[Big Night](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0115678)_, a lovely 1996 offering from Stanley Tucci. Stars Tucci, Tony Shalhoub, Minnie Driver, Ian Holm, and Isabella Rosselini. I get hungry every time I see this movie.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2002, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/97 "2002-04-08T01:36:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wendell Wagner \*  
> \*\*Homebrew,
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> How many of the films given in my list (in the link below) have you seen?
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> [http://www.dcfilmsociety.org/rv\_wendell200.htm](http://www.dcfilmsociety.org/rv_wendell200.htm) \*\*

1. So not quite enough for geek status, I guess. I your list did remind me of a classic that I had forgotten: 39 Steps.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2002, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/98 "2002-04-08T01:50:55Z")

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Great choices, **xenophon**. Loved both of those films.

Here’s one more. [Funny Bones](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0113133). A good performance by Olicer Platt, and three demented, hilarious, and touching performances by Lee Evens, Greogr Carl, and Freddie Davies. A twisted little tale of fraud, immortality, and humorous inspiration.

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**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2002, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/99 "2002-04-08T02:26:11Z")

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I feel that I am in good company here. I’ve seen at least a third of the films mentioned here. I need to get out more.

**Cartooniverse** , you took one of my favorites, _The Stunt Man_. It really is a shame that it gets so overlooked these days.

So, I’ll add:

_The Ruling Class_: another Peter O’Toole gem.

_The Horse’s Mouth_: Alec Guiness is a aging artist who still wants to create when everyone else wants him to die so the value of his works will increase. Very funny.

_Santa Sangre_: The only Jodorowsky film I’ve been able to find to date, but it’s so odd it deserves to be seen more.

_City Of Lost Children_: A quirky French fantasy tale.

_Chungking Express_: Proof that Hong Kong makes more than just great action flicks.

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**Author:** ![Kaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Kaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaya)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2002, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-movie-that-no-one-saw/100871/100 "2002-04-08T03:08:19Z")

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120 days of sodom

It wasnt the best, actually gross but up there in terms of being memorable.

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