# The best part of the fact that The Avengers is about to make a Gazillion dollars is... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 4, 2012, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869 "2012-05-04T13:40:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/101 "2012-05-09T13:32:38Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Maybe there were money considerations that made those fillers the more prudent choice. For Pete’s sake, she was made President of two different organizations shortly after the cancellation of Firefly. She was near the top of the television pyramid for a while. What great things do you imagine happening for her if she had kept Firefly on the air? Contrary to popular belief, “prestige” is super important to Hollywood people. In the years since it went off the air, Firefly has earned a reputation as one of the greatest television shows ever. Being the executive that had the vision to save it and possibly give it additional seasons would have been a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/102 "2012-05-09T13:37:34Z")
And if wishes were horses we’d all be eating steak. If she’d kept _Firefly_ on the air, eventually it would have started to decline, just like every other show. Then it would be “a very good show,” rather than “the greatest television show evah!” In other words, it would no longer be special. To anybody. Yes, we can mourn lost potential. But you can either wallow forever in that, or move on. Without that loss, we’d never have _Homeland, Castle, Avengers, LA Complex_…OK, the last one I’ll give you. Sorry Jewel, but that show sux. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/103 "2012-05-09T14:26:23Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Contrary to popular belief, “prestige” is super important to Hollywood people. In the years since it went off the air, Firefly has earned a reputation as one of the greatest television shows ever. Being the executive that had the vision to save it and possibly give it additional seasons would have been a good thing. First of all, it really really doesn’t have “a reputation as one of the greatest television shows ever”. It just got good DVD sales after it was cancelled. Second, how many projects do you think she greenlit or axed as President of Fox Entertainment and later Paramount? She had plenty of opportunities to display “vision” and I seriously doubt Firefly figures prominently among them. Certainly it can’t be blamed for her current fall from grace as her highest highs came shortly after Firefly’s demise. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/104 "2012-05-09T14:51:22Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > First of all, it really really doesn’t have “a reputation as one of the greatest television shows ever”. [Concur](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/04/26/entertainment/main507388.shtml). The average person has never even heard of it. Don’t confuse being a cult hit with actual popular acclaim. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/105 "2012-05-09T20:27:56Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Really? Because I can’t think of any other serialized drama in the past 10 years where episodes were shown out of order. The new show _The Finder_ has been shown out of order - very annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/106 "2012-05-09T21:50:19Z")
It has that reputation among a very small subset of the total TV audience. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/107 "2012-05-09T23:55:43Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > It has that reputation among a very small subset of the total TV audience. Well, I’m certainly not slamming the show. I actually thought it was pretty fun - a LOT better than that Buffy crap. It’s just the Whedon fan club seems to have highly inflated view of Firefly’s place in TV history. ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/108 "2012-05-10T01:16:24Z")
> [@Khadaji](#): > > The new show _The Finder_ has been shown out of order - very annoying. That’s it! I knew there was another one I am currently watching that was out of order recently. ---
**Author:** ![Bleedout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@Bleedout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bleedout)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/109 "2012-10-11T11:19:48Z")
But first he has to do the Avengers sequel. Three year deal. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/110 "2012-10-11T11:40:04Z")
Since this has been zombiefied: I’d like to see Whedon resurrect _The Prisoner_ as a sequel to the McGoohan version (and not another crappy reboot/remake/rehash). There were so many loose ends left in that show that there’s a lot to work with. But that’d be for television. ---
**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/111 "2012-10-11T13:02:05Z")
Also, seeing as this thread has been zombied, another good thing about the Avengers making a gazillion dollars is that Fox seem to be surprisingly open to doing an Avengers/X-men cross-over movie. At least, that’s what Lauren Shuler Donner (X-men Producer) says… [http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2012/10/rumor-x-men-the-avengers](http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2012/10/rumor-x-men-the-avengers) ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/112 "2012-10-11T13:45:10Z")
Avengers sequel idea: to capture the flavor of early-60s Marvel, which featured a lot of crossover cameos, I’d like to see a gag where the Avengers randomly run into Spider-Man swinging by, and exchange a few wisecracks with him before he goes on his way. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/113 "2012-10-11T13:59:21Z")
> [@Bakhesh](#): > > Also, seeing as this thread has been zombied, another good thing about the Avengers making a gazillion dollars is that Fox seem to be surprisingly open to doing an Avengers/X-men cross-over movie. Joss already did an X-Men/Spiderman/everybody else in the Marvel Universe cross-over when he was writing _Astonishing X-Men_. Was kinda interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/114 "2012-10-11T14:12:56Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Joss already did an X-Men/Spiderman/everybody else in the Marvel Universe cross-over when he was writing _Astonishing X-Men_. Was kinda interesting. There are a ton of them to choose from, but seeing as the Avengers franchise looks to be going a bit Thanos-y, an Infinity Gauntlet movie would work pretty well. It would also allow the movie makers to ditch any characters they didn’t want to use/couldn’t get the actors for, seeing as… Half the people in the universe die at the start of the story. It would stop the movie getting too overcrowded ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/115 "2012-10-11T14:38:25Z")
I want Kang! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/116 "2012-10-11T20:10:30Z")
I want Kodos! ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/117 "2012-10-11T20:35:53Z")
Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/118 "2012-10-11T21:20:18Z")
Or Count Nefera! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869/119 "2012-10-11T21:24:44Z")
Bonus points if the sequel involves our heroes beating the hell out of the Squadron Sinister. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-part-of-the-fact-that-the-avengers-is-about-to-make-a-gazillion-dollars-is/620869.md?page=5)