# The best place to live

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 11, 2003, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902 "2003-01-11T04:39:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![sirtonyh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@sirtonyh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirtonyh)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/21 "2003-01-13T16:34:33Z")

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In 3rd place - San Francisco. A truly beautiful city with so much vibrancy, so many friendly people and a live-and-let-live attitude pervading the whole area

Runner up is New York. Everything you could ever want in a city

But the winner would have to be Montreal. Fantastic blend of North American and French culture make it heaven on earth for me.

Notable mentions go to Sydney, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Amsterdam, Paris and Miami

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**Author:** ![DLurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecd19e/32.png) [@DLurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DLurker)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/22 "2003-01-13T17:40:19Z")

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\*\* sirtonyh \*\* is a wee bit cosmopolitan. You like the noise and press of people… In public I mean. Well, between non-consenting adults.

Ahh Hell. You know what I mean.

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**Author:** ![Zweistein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/54ee81/32.png) [@Zweistein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zweistein)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/23 "2003-01-13T18:38:36Z")

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Southern France. In the winter ski and in the summer riviera.  
Mais un petit peu cher, helas.

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/24 "2003-01-13T18:48:39Z")

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If you pick up Ann Arbor lock, stock, and barrel, and put it about where Raleigh NC is now, it’d be heaven.

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**Author:** ![beckwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@beckwall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beckwall)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/25 "2003-01-13T20:36:49Z")

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Palm Springs. Yeah, it is a bit warm in the summer, but rarely unbearable. And the winter is spectacular - a day like today, with warm sunshine and clear blue skies - makes a hot August day all worthwhile. We are 2 hours from L.A., a bit more to San Diego and Mexico, and about an hour to Joshua Tree National Park, which is a magical place. Right now we are hosting the Palm Springs International Film Festival, and so far I’ve seen films from India, Thailand, Finland and Mauritania. Cultural events, great weather, proximity to big cities (oh yeah, Las Vegas is about 4 hours away too), and nice people. Always something to do. It all adds up to a great place to live, and whenever I travel abroad, I am always happy to get back to paradise. That’s the true sign of a good place to live, don’t you think?

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**Author:** ![sirtonyh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@sirtonyh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirtonyh)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/26 "2003-01-13T21:28:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DLurker \*  
> \*\*\*\* sirtonyh \*\* is a wee bit cosmopolitan. You like the noise and press of people… In public I mean. Well, between non-consenting adults.
> 
> Ahh Hell. You know what I mean. \*\*

Yep, that would be me. I think anyplace with a wide variety of architecture, nationalities, culture, opinions and great restaurants is the place to be 😃

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**Author:** ![montana\_cricket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@montana\_cricket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/montana_cricket)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/27 "2003-01-13T21:40:21Z")

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I’m there…😉

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/28 "2003-01-13T22:34:33Z")

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**Sacramento** is a great place to live. It’s climate is mild, ranging from 90’s in the summer to mid-50’s in winter.

There are so many trees here that autumn is wonderful! It can make a mess of your car, but it’s a small price.

It’s a small town and a big city all at the same time.

It’s close to SF, the Sierras, and Reno.

It’s economy is good and housing is relatively affordable.

State Capitol… a nice place to keep active in state issues.

I just wish Sac could be more like **Austin** though…

**San Diego** is another great place, but I’ll let someone else take that one.

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**Author:** ![SlickRoenick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SlickRoenick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlickRoenick)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2003, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/29 "2003-01-14T02:37:00Z")

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Above ground. 😃

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**Author:** ![DLurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecd19e/32.png) [@DLurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DLurker)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2003, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/30 "2003-01-14T03:34:18Z")

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\*\* Muldoon III \*\* Anywhere as long as it’s above ground?

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**Author:** ![SlickRoenick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SlickRoenick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlickRoenick)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2003, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/31 "2003-01-14T03:54:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DLurker \*  
> \*\*\*\* Muldoon III \*\* Anywhere as long as it’s above ground? \*\*

I’d hate to live underground, that would mean I’d be dead. Get it?🆒

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**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2003, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/32 "2003-01-14T21:55:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bearflag70 \*  
> \*\*\*\*State Capitol… a nice place to keep active in state issues. \*\*

Like being $30[sup]something[/sup],000,000,000 in debt (more than all other states combined). :o

:rolleyes: [sup] **The state of bankrupcy**. Yeah, that’s the state I’d like to live in. [/sup]

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2003, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/33 "2003-01-14T22:42:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by kniz \*  
> \*\*Like being $30[sup]something[/sup],000,000,000 in debt (more than all other states combined). :o
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> :rolleyes: [sup] **The state of bankrupcy**. Yeah, that’s the state I’d like to live in. [/sup] \*\*

[hijack]

We all have our issues…

😉

Actually, some are saying those numbers are way out of line and being exaggerated upward by Gov. Davis so he can look like a hero when he “fixes” the “problem”…

We’ll see…

[/hijack]

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**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2003, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/34 "2003-01-15T00:15:46Z")

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Okay, I’ll nominate San Diego.

It’s not the BEST, but it’s pretty damn good.

The weather can’t be beat. Pretty much partly cloudy and 68 degrees all year 'round. If you like to be outside, go to the beach, drive a little inland and be in the mountains, whatever, you’ve got it.

If you like to vacation in Mexico, it’s close by.

However: cost of living and housing sucks, relative to income. It’s expensive to own a home here. And besides, there are already too many people living here!

But climatewise - I’m so utterly and horribly spoiled.

Oh!!! We’ve also got a Farrell’s ice cream parlor. So nyah!

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**Author:** ![DLurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecd19e/32.png) [@DLurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DLurker)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/35 "2003-01-16T14:12:57Z")

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- \*\* scout1222 \*\* \* Oh!!! We’ve also got a Farrell’s ice cream parlor. So nyah! [/qoute]

What?? I thought they went out of buisness. I am not a big CA fan but I could go for a Gibson Girl…

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/36 "2003-01-16T14:32:23Z")

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anywhere warm in the winter.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/37 "2003-01-16T14:34:03Z")

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> But the winner would have to be Montreal. Fantastic blend of North American and French culture make it heaven on earth for me.

Hee. Second the motion. (And third it, hopefully, once **Potter** sells his house. No, I won’t shut up. 🙂 )

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**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/38 "2003-01-16T17:02:50Z")

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**DLurker** - ours may be the only one left.

We had a SanDiegDopeFest there last year and had ice cream sundaes to the beat of the drum and siren.

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**Author:** ![DLurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecd19e/32.png) [@DLurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DLurker)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/39 "2003-01-16T18:03:34Z")

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\*\* scout1222 \*\* Lucky bastard…

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**Author:** ![raz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@raz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raz)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-place-to-live/147902/40 "2003-01-16T18:31:34Z")

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Kansas - Snows one day, 75 degrees the next. It’s great!

Actually, I want to live in Hawaii or somewhere tropical.

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