# The Best Rock Album Dopers Have Never Heard **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 8, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126 "2020-01-08T14:53:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/41 "2020-01-09T14:37:14Z")
Great thread — I’ll give everything mentioned a listen over the next month or two. _Men Without Women_ — is that the one with “Forever”? I’ve loved that song since I saw the video circa 1983, when I was thirteen — it expressed so well the groove of teens (of all races) in the outer boroughs and inner suburbs of New York City during that era. When I bought my toddler the standard colored kid’s glockenspiel, I immediately played the catchy glock riff from that song (minus one note, not included in the major-octave-scale toddler glock). I’m aware that the phrase “toddler glock” evokes incongruous firearm images… ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/42 "2020-01-09T14:52:39Z")
I just rewatched that video, and as a geographer, I must correct myself: it’s filmed in Manhattan, not Queens or Newark as I’d thought. Still, the vibe (of the song and video) is more like high school in the latter locations. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/43 "2020-01-09T14:57:30Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > So, the Jimi Hendrix Experience’s “Are You Experienced” wouldn’t work, but “Band of Gypsys” might, as it was recorded without the Experience and isn’t well known (I suppose…) Good one. “Who Knows” (the first track on _Band of Gypsys_) is just one long, funky, catchy, you-must-dance-to-this groove. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/44 "2020-01-09T14:59:28Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I will add the album “Wet Dreams” by Pink Floyd keyboardist **Richard Wright** , which is hard to find. > . \*\* adds to playlist == ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/45 "2020-01-09T15:13:16Z")
How about **Mr. Bad Guy** , Freddie Mercury’s first solo album? Good stuff, and without any of the other Queen members. ---
**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/46 "2020-01-09T15:22:06Z")
> [@minlokwat](#): > > The “new” Steely Dan work is excellent. > > **Two Against Nature** came out in 2000 so it’s not so new but it won Grammy’s for: Album of the Year, Best Pop Vocal Album, Best Engineered Album, and Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group for the song _Cousin Dupree_. I’ll bet most classic rocker fans have never even heard of it. > > \ > > Let us know what you think. Two Against Nature was the first CD that I bought online. Good album, although the lyrics to “Cousin Dupree” is a little skeevy. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/47 "2020-01-09T15:34:01Z")
A great rock album lots of people never hear is **[The Revolution Starts Now](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolution_Starts_Now_(album))** by Steve Earle. The probably have not heard it because they think it is a country album. It won the Grammy Award for Best Contemporary Folk Album. But it is rock and roll. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/48 "2020-01-09T16:23:44Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > A great rock album lots of people never hear is **[The Revolution Starts Now](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolution_Starts_Now_(album))** by Steve Earle. > > The probably have not heard it because they think it is a country album. It won the Grammy Award for Best Contemporary Folk Album. > > But it is rock and roll. I have about a half dozen Steve Earle albums, but somehow had never heard of this. Listening to it now, great callout. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/49 "2020-01-09T16:45:39Z")
Eliott Murphy’s _Aquashow_. Murphy was anointed as one of the “New Bob Dylan” club (with Loudon Wainwright II, John Prine, and Bruce Springsteen) when it came out, and it’s a wonderful album. But he never caught on in the US (he’s successful in Europe). People have probably heard of it, but not a lot have heard it: _Song Cycle_ by Van Dyke Parks. A couple of obscure ones by The Four Seasons. _The Genuine Imitation Life Gazette_ was their attempt at a rock opera, and is pretty good overall, though it flopped badly because the fans weren’t getting typical Four Seasons fare, while those who might like it refused to listen to the Four Seasons. _The Four Seasons Live on Stage_ is not a live album, but it’s mixed pretty cleverly to sound like it is. It was a contractual obligation albums, so they didn’t sing any of their hits, but it does document their lounge act roots. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/50 "2020-01-09T17:18:43Z")
Steve Miller’s _ **Recall the Beginning…A Journey from Eden** _, the album before he went mainstream and hit it big. Side one’s do-wop pastiche “Enter Maurice” may not appeal to everyone, but the rest of the album, especially side two, is some of the best stuff Steve has ever put out. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/51 "2020-01-09T18:51:50Z")
California - American Music Club Mark Eitzel was the greatest singer songwriter of the 80s. Come to think of it, he was the only singer songwriter of the 80s. Still as good as many of his greatest forebears. This is their third LP IIRC. And they are a rock band too. ---
**Author:** ![justmeetee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@justmeetee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justmeetee)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/52 "2020-01-09T19:59:15Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > [Furthermore](https://www.allmusic.com/album/furthermore-mw0000042734) and [Do You Wonder](https://www.allmusic.com/album/do-you-wonder-mw0000049012) by Shawn Phillips are remarkable, old favorites of mine. (Has anyone even heard of Shawn Phillips?) Saw him at the Golden Bear in Huntington Beach California in 1975. Don’t know about Dopers but I lot of people I know have never heard Jamming With Edward by the Stones minus Richards and Woods but with Ry Cooder and Nicky Hopkins. Also Sufficiently Breathless by Captain Beyond gets a lot of “who’s that” from people I know. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwIfOJhaxiU) ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/53 "2020-01-09T20:00:37Z")
[Roy Harper / Jimmy Page - Jugula](https://www.amazon.com/Jugula-ROY-HARPER/dp/B00002MW2Z) I love this one, adds some rock edge to Harper’s style, and pulls Page into more folksy direction, with an experimental art-rock vibe to the whole. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/54 "2020-01-09T21:29:32Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > A great rock album lots of people never hear is **[The Revolution Starts Now](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolution_Starts_Now_(album))** by Steve Earle. > > The probably have not heard it because they think it is a country album. It won the Grammy Award for Best Contemporary Folk Album. > > But it is rock and roll. Did not know about the reward. At least it got an award but damn. F\*\*\* the CC sounds just like Woody Guthrie, right? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/55 "2020-01-09T21:38:18Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > I know that **Clutch** is familiar to at least a few of you, but: _Pure Rock Fury_. “Pure Rock Fury” is not an album title, it’s a description. As someone familiar with clutch and not particularly a fan, I’d have to still admit that this is a good description of their music. It’s pretty hard to describe which rock subgenre they are but it is hard and furious. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/56 "2020-01-09T21:47:16Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > **The Crazy World of Arthur Brown**. The guy was a [one-hit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en1uwIzI3SE) wonder back in the late 60s, but I bought his album at the PX in Vietnam just for the hell of it, and really liked it. But for a very long time afterward, any time I mentioned the guy, I just got blank looks. I’m sure others on this board know of the guy, but has anybody listened to the entire album? I only know him from an entry on a psychedelic [compilation album](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq-Zbs-5WWA). Fire doesn’t sound bad either, tho. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/57 "2020-01-09T21:56:56Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > A lot of you probably have never sat down and listened to [Bloodrock USA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodrock_U.S.A.). > > [YouTube full album (with ads sorry)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2JiJSyU1-c&list=PL94gOvpr5yt3pK53LeHlX58saqMU0nM7K) I’m surprised that this hasn’t come up yet in my YouTube recommendations since I’ve been listening to a lot of semi/obscure hard rock/blues/psychedelic turn of the 70s stuff. It’s weird that even though this is still pretty good, it’s also pretty different from D.O.A. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/58 "2020-01-10T01:08:13Z")
Um, _anything_. after the last Jefferson Airplane album? 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Hatchie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hatchie/32/3983_2.png) [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/59 "2020-01-10T02:13:32Z")
Ow, harsh. But not without a train of grooth. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/60 "2020-01-10T04:26:50Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > Ednaswap- Wacko Magneto > > Really, any Ednaswap album. Serious rock, seriously overlooked music. I had heard of them but didn’t remember any of their songs. I did not know that they wrote “Torn”, which a couple years later became a worldwide megahit for Natalie Imbruglia. I also vaguely remember Young Fresh Fellows and Ultra Vivid Scene; the former are probably best known for a passing reference in a They Might be Giants song. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126.md?page=4)