# The Best Rock Album Dopers Have Never Heard

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**Created:** [January 8, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126 "2020-01-08T14:53:52Z")\
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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> I’ve played **Duck Stab** so often that the laser has burned a hole in the CD. 😛 Fantastic album.
> 
> I’m going to make the assumption I am the only Doper who has played the followup album in its entirety: [Eskimo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo_(album)).

As it happens, I bought the 12" single of Diskomo when it came out and also have a 7" single of Duckstab. I don’t have a vinyl/cd release of Eskimo but I do have the dvd! Watched it a few times. 🙂  
My nomination would be the live album _Stupidity_ by **Dr. Feelgood**. Little remembered, although it was a number one album in the UK when it came out in 1976.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/62 "2020-01-10T13:34:29Z")

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[quote=“justmeetee, post:52, topic:846126”]

Saw him at the Golden Bear in Huntington Beach California in 1975.

Don’t know about Dopers but I lot of people I know have never heard Jamming With Edward by the Stones minus Richards and Woods but with Ry Cooder and Nicky Hopkins.  
Also Sufficiently Breathless by Captain Beyond gets a lot of “who’s that” from people I know.

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I had a roommate in college who had a couple of Captain Beyond albums. IIRC the band was started by one of the former members of Iron Butterfly?

Same roommate had a couple albums by a group called Marc-Almond that I remember being very listenable. John Marc and Johnny Almond were part of John Mayall’s backup band on his “Turning Point” album. Which I guess is also a good one to mention for this thread, even though it’s not really rock, it’s more of a laid back acoustic jazzy-blues. If you’re familiar with “Room To Move”, that’s the most upbeat cut on the album.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/63 "2020-01-10T19:28:47Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> I had a roommate in college who had a couple of Captain Beyond albums. IIRC the band was started by one of the former members of Iron Butterfly?
> 
> Same roommate had a couple albums by a group called Marc-Almond that I remember being very listenable. John Marc and Johnny Almond were part of John Mayall’s backup band on his “Turning Point” album. Which I guess is also a good one to mention for this thread, even though it’s not really rock, it’s more of a laid back acoustic jazzy-blues. If you’re familiar with “Room To Move”, that’s the most upbeat cut on the album.

Yes the guitarist Larry Reinhardt and bassist Lee Dorman were in Iron Butterfly. And yes I do have some Marc Almond as well, and you are correct that they really are not “rock”.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7FPQymvfYo8/hqdefault.jpg "Mark Almond - "What Am I Living For"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPQymvfYo8)

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Breaking all the rules from Peter Frampton in 1981

> **[Breaking All the Rules (Peter Frampton album)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_All_the_Rules_(Peter_Frampton_album))**
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> Breaking All the Rules is the seventh studio album by English musician Peter Frampton, released on May 14, 1981, A&M Records.
> The Breaking All the Rules album had featured a raw live in the studio approach like its predecessor Rise Up, which was a Brazilian release to promote Frampton's concert tour in Brazil in 1980. The album had won airplay for its anthemic title track, which was co-written with Procol Harum lyricist Keith Reid. The album's cover was photographed at 350 W 23rd Street, Chels...

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/65 "2020-01-14T01:38:35Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Anything by the **Young Fresh Fellows,** especially the first album, \*Sounds of the Pacific Northwest.

Cool! Reminds me just a bit of Southern Culture on the Skids. _Too Much Pork for Just One Fork_ is a terrific, fun album.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/66 "2020-01-16T00:03:21Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Well, _somebody_ bought hundreds of his LPs and promptly sold them to second-hand record stores.
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> Seriously, I hit a lot of record shops and thrift stores (in Wisconsin, Chicago and all the small towns between). And I know I can walk into a random St. Vinnie’s and find _Contribution, Second Contribution, Furthermore_ and at least two scratchy copies of \*Collaboration. \*
> 
> Was never tempted to listen to his stuff, though, until this thread. I’ll give him a listen.

I had 4 Shawn Phillips albums, all via Wuxtry, the St. Louis used record shop. I named the two I liked best. My introduction to him was _Contribution_; it was my sister’s album. I loved Wuxtry for the unknown gems that could be found there.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/67 "2020-01-20T02:30:22Z")

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Héroes del Silencio - Senderos de Traición

Open your minds and ears to Spanish rock.

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Because you are all white children, I will share with you [Mother’s Finest: Another Mother Further](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7yJgifFlu4)

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/69 "2020-01-20T03:12:29Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Same roommate had a couple albums by a group called Marc-Almond that I remember being very listenable. John Marc and Johnny Almond were part of John Mayall’s backup band on his “Turning Point” album. Which I guess is also a good one to mention for this thread, even though it’s not really rock, it’s more of a laid back acoustic jazzy-blues. If you’re familiar with “Room To Move”, that’s the most upbeat cut on the album.

I saw them in concert. It was not a good experience. The worst thing is that they opened the doors an hour late after we waiting outside in cold weather. Finally, they opened the doors and we went in. The band came out and proceeded to start a sound check. When the audience booed them, they got all huffy, like we were the ones to blame. No apology or explanation why an 8:00 concert didn’t begin until 10:30. And the music wasn’t worth the wait.

Our college had a track records of booking groups who no one had heard of at the time. Sometimes they hit it big – like the J. Geils Band or the Mahavishnu Orchestra.\* Sometimes, though they never did, but put out some very good music. These included [Dreams](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreams_(band)), [Seatrain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seatrain_(band)), and [McKendree Spring](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McKendree_Spring).

\*Though Mahavishnu insisted on playing at ear-splitting volume. If I go deaf, it’s because of that concert alone.

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> In the early 90s, I played **Ultra Vivid Scene** continuously, and I have yet to meet someone who heard of them (actually him, it was just one guy). It’s stereotypical late 80s/early 90s college radio. My favorite album was probably [Rev](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgmiK0wStaE&list=OLAK5uy_lQxFI6g7jKe9ZRBQF0ugoNvju9WtjQyM4), loaded with long, epic songs convinced of their self-importance.
> 
> UVS had [one minor hit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DCjSShu_VA) with Kim Deal (Pixies) on backup vocals, but even that was pretty obscure.

I have “Joy 1967-1990” in my CD collection, and it got a decent number of listens back in the day. Tried it again maybe 7-8 years ago, and it left me pretty cold.

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This one probably doesn’t qualify for this thread, as the album went Gold in the U.S., and a couple of the tracks charted. But I think it’s criminally underrated and wrongly forgotten: “Boomtown” (1986) by David & David. Catchy music and gripping lyrics.

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Boylan Heights by The Connells , 1987 also their albums Fun and Games and One Simple Word are very good too.

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> [@Cosmigonon](#):
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> Héroes del Silencio - Senderos de Traición
> 
> Open your minds and ears to Spanish rock.

Good one.

One of my favorite albums, though only about 40% of it is “rock” (its range of styles is wonderful), is _Re_, by Café Tacuba.

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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> [Roy Harper / Jimmy Page - Jugula](https://www.amazon.com/Jugula-ROY-HARPER/dp/B00002MW2Z)
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> I love this one, adds some rock edge to Harper’s style, and pulls Page into more folksy direction, with an experimental art-rock vibe to the whole.

Cool. About two years ago we had a thread “what if X had paired up with Y, a la Lennon and McCartney — would that have made for the cure of a cool band?”, and I suggested Page and Harper. Didn’t know until now that they’d actually collaborated a bit.

1985 — must have been just before Page formed The Firm with Paul Rodgers (and just after he’d done the music for _Death Wish II_.)

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/75 "2020-01-21T01:53:11Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> One of my favorite albums, though only about 40% of it is “rock” (its range of styles is wonderful), is _Re_, by Café Tacuba.

Agreed. Very eclectic album.

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Aloha Sayonara by The Honolulu Mountain Daffodils. [Title track](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nil2xDA0t7w). Stoogish rock with a black sense of humour. Some of the rest is more krautrock. Other albums also good.

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[The Street Giveth and the Street Taketh Away](https://www.discogs.com/Cat-Mother-And-The-All-Night-Newsboys-The-Street-GivethAnd-The-Street-Taketh-Away-Cat-Mother-314/master/229667) by Cat Mother and the All Night Newsboys. They opened for Hendrix who produced the album - and it is beautifully produced. The hit was “Good Old Rock and Roll” but with a few exceptions the songs are even better than that one.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-album-dopers-have-never-heard/846126/78 "2020-01-21T22:04:08Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> I’ve played **Duck Stab** so often that the laser has burned a hole in the CD. 😛 Fantastic album.
> 
> I’m going to make the assumption I am the only Doper who has played the followup album in its entirety: [Eskimo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo_(album)).

I have. But not recently. Duck Stab is their masterpiece IMO. Commercial Album was pretty good, too.

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Mavericks (1995) by Peter Holsapple and Chris Stamey, (formerly) of The dBs

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Cool. About two years ago we had a thread “what if X had paired up with Y, a la Lennon and McCartney — would that have made for the cure of a cool band?”, and I suggested Page and Harper. Didn’t know until now that they’d actually collaborated a bit.
> 
> 1985 — must have been just before Page formed The Firm with Paul Rodgers (and just after he’d done the music for _Death Wish II_.)

I didn’t know about it, either. Anyone else notice that the cover is designed to look like the Rizla (rolling papers) logo?

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