# The best rock of the 1970s is actually being made in the 21st century!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 22, 2013, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986 "2013-01-22T06:53:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![keeganst94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/21 "2013-01-26T04:53:22Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally posted by Snowboarder Bo
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> Even emo/prog/space punks Coheed & Cambria seem to be catching the vibe; the first track from their soon-to-be-released new album is unashamedly '70s: The Hard Sell. Tell me that doesn’t remind you of the first time you listened to The Wall; I won’t believe you, but you can go ahead and tell me that.

All right, I’ll bite. The only thing in this song that reminds me of Pink Floyd is the guitar riff at 2:30. The guys voice and singing style is completely different, the drumming sounds different to me, though I find it hard to explain why, the lyrics are way more emo, or at least less subtle about it … I just really don’t hear any resemblance.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/22 "2013-01-26T06:43:03Z")

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> [@keeganst94](#):
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> … I just really don’t hear any resemblance.

I have to agree. Pink Floyd was complex, co-ordinated and subtle, they could put together bridges (not solos) that actually said something (especially after a blotter on the tongue). C & C is pretty uninteresting journeyman work that, at least for me, does not invite repeated listening. The only similarity I can see it that it is sort of weird, but I can see no place for it next to even _Atom Heart Mother_.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/23 "2013-01-26T08:16:45Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> [“The Walk” by Mayer Hawthorne](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dESmmnwr590) is early 1970s R&B plucked from its original context and dropped bodily directly into the modern music charts. It is, perhaps, the single best example of good 1970s music being made now.

I agree it’s a good song. It was [a good song the first time it was recorded, by Tommy James & The Shondells](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2821Jvnaeg8), too. 🙂

I still prefer Lee Fields, tho.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/24 "2013-01-26T08:18:24Z")

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**keeganst94** and **For You** , I don’t believe you.

Now that we’ve finished that little exchange, did you have anything to contribute to the thread? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/25 "2013-01-26T15:24:36Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Now that we’ve finished that little exchange, did you have anything to contribute to the thread? :dubious:

This post made me let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff in there!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/26 "2013-01-26T17:10:50Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> **keeganst94** and **For You** , I don’t believe you.
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> Now that we’ve finished that little exchange, did you have anything to contribute to the thread? :dubious:

You say that Coheed & Cambria reminds you of Pink Floyd, we say “What? No way.” Apparently either you are hearing something we are not or your grasp of Pink Floyd is weak. In either case, it is a matter of opinion, whether or not you believe what has been said does not matter. I personally know Pink Floyd almost inside-out and find very little similarity, but if you like Coheed & Cambria and it gives you a feeling like you get from Pink Floyd, fine, I respect that. Just be ready for dissent from serious Floydians.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/27 "2013-01-27T02:14:18Z")

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> [@For You](#):
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> You say that Coheed & Cambria reminds you of Pink Floyd, we say “What? No way.” Apparently either you are hearing something we are not or your grasp of Pink Floyd is weak.

I agree that that particular track does not sound _very_ floydian (although there are definitely lots of songs out there that score far lower on the floydian scale.)

But have you hear their obvious homage song [The Final Cut](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf90wjabKi0)? (in case you want to FF, solo starts at 2:40, but the beginning is fairly similar as well.) That’s pretty fucking Floydian. But like I said previously in the thread, they only have two tracks that are like that. (Although they are a prog-rock band in general, so there’s also that.)

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**Author:** ![Jimi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Jimi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimi)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/28 "2013-01-27T21:07:50Z")

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[http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player\_embedded&v=tX14EGKsgmQ](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tX14EGKsgmQ)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/29 "2013-01-27T22:22:46Z")

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**Jimi** ’s link goes to a video by a band called The Union; the song title is _Siren’s Song_.

It sounds nothing like anything from the 1970s, except that it does have guitars and drums and vocals. Stylistically, tho, it doesn’t fit in with the rest of this thread at all.

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**Author:** ![Jimi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Jimi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimi)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/30 "2013-01-28T19:34:03Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> **Jimi** ’s link goes to a video by a band called The Union; the song title is _Siren’s Song_.
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> It sounds nothing like anything from the 1970s, except that it does have guitars and drums and vocals. Stylistically, tho, it doesn’t fit in with the rest of this thread at all.

You may well be correct in your assumption but the same could be said for some of the links that you posted that sound nothing like 1970ish music.  
Before you start parping your horn I’d like to mention I’ve been listening to music since 1958 so I think I know what I’m typing about.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/31 "2013-01-28T20:23:54Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> **Jimi** ’s link goes to a video by a band called The Union; the song title is _Siren’s Song_.
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> It sounds nothing like anything from the 1970s, except that it does have guitars and drums and vocals. Stylistically, tho, it doesn’t fit in with the rest of this thread at all.

Well, it’s blues-based rock, so I can sort of see the inclusion, but it sounds more like 90s-era 70s-influenced rock (think much of the so-called “grunge” scene) than 70s rock, if that makes any sense whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/32 "2013-01-28T20:58:31Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I agree that that particular track does not sound _very_ floydian (although there are definitely lots of songs out there that score far lower on the floydian scale.)
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> But have you hear their obvious homage song [The Final Cut](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf90wjabKi0)? (in case you want to FF, solo starts at 2:40, but the beginning is fairly similar as well.) That’s pretty fucking Floydian. But like I said previously in the thread, they only have two tracks that are like that. (Although they are a prog-rock band in general, so there’s also that.)

I had listened to that song, and then I listened to it again. I think I can discern what it is that makes you think that, but, as a serious Pink Floyd fan, I am not even hearing much in the way of seminal Floyd. It would be like saying a song that has a powerful guitar and a flute _ipso facto_ sounds like Tull. I mean, it is fine that you think it sounds Floydian and that I think it sounds somewhere between _Terraplane Blues_ and _Nude Disintegrating Parachutist Woman_, we can just agree to disagree.

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**Author:** ![Jimi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Jimi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimi)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/33 "2013-01-28T22:07:07Z")

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> [@For You](#):
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> I had listened to that song, and then I listened to it again. I think I can discern what it is that makes you think that, but, as a serious Pink Floyd fan, I am not even hearing much in the way of seminal Floyd. It would be like saying a song that has a powerful guitar and a flute _ipso facto_ sounds like Tull. I mean, it is fine that you think it sounds Floydian and that I think it sounds somewhere between _Terraplane Blues_ and _Nude Disintegrating Parachutist Woman_, we can just agree to disagree.

If you love Floyd (I do too) then check out a website called [sugarmegs.org](http://sugarmegs.org)  
There are tons of other live gigs on the site,around 63 k,and you could be on it for weeks on end.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/34 "2013-01-29T04:38:48Z")

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I keep waiting for people to post more examples, but I guess it’s just gonna fall to me to do most of the work for this thread. I hope someone somewhere is enjoying the music, at least.

Lettuce plays mostly instrumental funk, but sometimes they bring in a guest to do vox, mostly on covers.

[Lettsanity](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGvUkHFzIZ8)  
[Outta Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKwqF7DV94c)  
[25 minutes from a concert in Bear Creek - includes the songs _Monorail 3000, Blast Off, Ziggowatt, & Sam Huff’s Flying Ragin’ Machine_](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy69_tdrCDc)

And remember upthread where I said that we’d soon see some retro-80s bands? Ladies and gentlemen, I give you **Hardcore Superstar** - [One More Minute](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5rwfgxFEIU).

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**Author:** ![Jimi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Jimi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimi)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/35 "2013-01-29T13:57:20Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I keep waiting for people to post more examples, but I guess it’s just gonna fall to me to do most of the work for this thread. I hope someone somewhere is enjoying the music, at least.
> 
> Lettuce plays mostly instrumental funk, but sometimes they bring in a guest to do vox, mostly on covers.
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> [Lettsanity](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGvUkHFzIZ8)  
> [Outta Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKwqF7DV94c)  
> [25 minutes from a concert in Bear Creek - includes the songs _Monorail 3000, Blast Off, Ziggowatt, & Sam Huff’s Flying Ragin’ Machine_](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy69_tdrCDc)
> 
> And remember upthread where I said that we’d soon see some retro-80s bands? Ladies and gentlemen, I give you **Hardcore Superstar** - [One More Minute](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5rwfgxFEIU).

Don’t be too harsh on folk mate,it’s everyone to their own devices,your stuff is good though.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/36 "2013-01-29T16:01:13Z")

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Can’t believe no-body’s mentioned Wolfmother yet. I saw them at SCSW and they had so much energy on stage they blew me away. Very reminiscent of Led Zep: [Wolfmother - Dimension (Official Video) - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjJ7KCBykVU)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/37 "2013-01-29T17:52:20Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> Can’t believe no-body’s mentioned Wolfmother yet. I saw them at SCSW and they had so much energy on stage they blew me away. Very reminiscent of Led Zep: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjJ7KCBykVU](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjJ7KCBykVU)

Perhaps you [failed to read the thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15927852&postcount=15)?

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/38 "2013-01-29T17:58:49Z")

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> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#):
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> Aussie rockers Wolfmother totally nail the sound and feel of early 70s British hard rock: check out [Dimension](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjJ7KCBykVU), the intro track off their first album.

Jesus, how many classic 70s rock motifs can you fit into one song? That was impressive!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/39 "2013-01-30T01:47:48Z")

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> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#):
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> Aussie rockers Wolfmother totally nail the sound and feel of early 70s British hard rock: check out [Dimension](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjJ7KCBykVU), the intro track off their first album.

Hmmm, besides the Black Sabbath singing, it seems a bit more like late 60s than early 70s (like Cream meets Hendrix) but I won’t quibble. Actually now that it’s most of the way through, they do have a _little_ Zeppelin going on.

One reason I won’t quibble is because every musical year really is a member of two eras: a late/early decade sound and a mid/turn-of-the-decade sound. So 1971 is both early 70s and turn of the 70s. The hard rock that Wolfmother plays in this clip is definitely turn-of-the-70s even if we might not agree which side it is on.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-rock-of-the-1970s-is-actually-being-made-in-the-21st-century/647986/40 "2013-01-30T04:05:13Z")

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I’ve always thought of Wolfmother as more the 70s side of the divide, particularly because I’m just sick of hearing 70s-style rock. Don’t get me wrong–I grew up on “classic rock” and 70s music was the soundtrack to my high school years (in the early 90s), but I’m burnt out on the sound and would prefer bands not to retread old ground. Just my own personal preferences.

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