# The best Shakespeare play **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 10, 2010, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620 "2010-12-10T03:09:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/1 "2010-12-10T03:09:42Z")
As the title. I’ve tried to include all the biggies from his comedies, tragedies and histories - as well as included the mandatory ‘other’ option and an option for those who don’t care for old Bill. Say what you like about Bill, he was rather prolific. At school we mainly looked at his comedies (_A Midsummer Night’s Dream_ and _Twelfth Night_), which I think was a big mistake - looking back, I can’t stand them. The jokes fall totally flat and the puns are unbearable. Mind you, I can’t exactly blame him - in 500 years I’m sure people will be scratching their heads at _The Simpsons_. “The goggles, they do nothing”? I have to say from my fairly limited readings, that my favourite bits tend to be in _Hamlet_ - the famous “To be, or not to be…” soliloquy is found here, as well as “What a piece of work is man…”, both iconic Shakespearian lines. I also like the “If you prick me, do I not bleed?” bit in _The Merchant of Venice_, although the overall antisemitic overcurrent in the play leaves a bad taste in the mouth these days. _Henry V_ wins in terms of pure badassery. My reading of the bard is still very limited, so what say the more literate Dopers? ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/2 "2010-12-10T03:26:07Z")
_The Comedy of Errors._ Downhill from there. :shakes head at you people: ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/3 "2010-12-10T03:35:36Z")
The plays, especially the comedies, really should be seen to be appreciated. The jokes might fall flat on the page, as might a Simpson’s joke read from a script. But acted out those same corny jokes will have me laughing like a loon. My picks? Macbeth and Midsummer’s Night Dream. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/4 "2010-12-10T03:49:01Z")
I’ll give you two guesses which one I picked, and the first guess doesn’t count. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/5 "2010-12-10T04:05:50Z")
Richard II is the most poetic of all of Shakespeare’s plays, and has been one of my favourites for years. ---
**Author:** ![Mustardseed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Mustardseed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mustardseed)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/6 "2010-12-10T04:07:17Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I’ll give you two guesses which one I picked, and the first guess doesn’t count. apparently I’m not the only one who’s username is from the Bard - consequently my vote for A Midsummer Night’s Dream. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/7 "2010-12-10T04:08:59Z")
I like **The Winter’s Tale** , which is a really weird play – the first half is pure tragedy, with Othello-like jealousy and evil twists of fate. The second half is lighthearted romance much like **A Midsummer Night’s Dream** , with a ending that is either magic or a 16-year-long joke played upon the protagonist. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/8 "2010-12-10T04:20:11Z")
My overall favorite is _The Tempest_, and had this poll been six months ago, I’d have picked that alone. But this summer, the local Shakespeare company put on the best performance I’ve ever seen of _Midsummer Night’s Dream_, so I voted for that, too. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/9 "2010-12-10T04:41:56Z")
I cannot over-emphasize how much difference it makes seeing the plays _as plays_. I don’t feel that I’ve fully experienced the ones that I’ve only read, though I’ve liked almost all. I wish I had (or will have!) the opportunity to see _great_ stage productions of more of them. I’ve never seen a live _Henry V_ or _Othello_ that matched the best film adaptations, for example, though I like those plays very much. Among those I _have_ seen as great stage productions, I’ll go with _The Tempest_, then _Antony and Cleopatra_ second. If you have a Shakespeare repertory company anywhere within a day’s travel, please support them. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/10 "2010-12-10T04:43:38Z")
**King Lear** , of course. Not my favorite. That honor goes to **Twelfth Night**. But by far the best. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_A.Robrin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sam_a.robrin/32/14497_2.png) [@Sam\_A.Robrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_A.Robrin)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/11 "2010-12-10T04:46:49Z")
I just clicked off the BBC _Hamlet_, concluding a month of viewing 35 of the plays (library still needs to get back _Errors_ and _Merchant_). I’ll give it to _Midsummer Night’s Dream_, but it’s clearly _De gustibus non est disputandem_. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/12 "2010-12-10T17:26:02Z")
I voted for _Henry IV_, Part 1 or 2, but I really mean Parts 1 _and_ 2. There’s something about the sheer epic sweep of the history cycles that make them much more awesome than any single play can be. (Even better if you add _Richard II_ and _Henry V_ to the mix, but I figured ticking more than one box would be getting way too greedy.) ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/13 "2010-12-10T18:30:31Z")
I’m gratified to see that my personal favorite, _Hamlet_, is the favored play. _Hamlet_ may be the most quoted (and equally misquoted) play in the English language, and managed to incorporate (dark) comedy and tragedy effectively. The Branaugh film adaptation is pretty definitive, if slightly overwrought; I have the 2010 BBC production on DVD and trying to find a four hour block of time to watch it. I’m mildly disappointed that Akira Kurosawa never directed an adaptation, as itmwould have been the perfect métier for this play. However, no cinematic telling is really comparable to the immediacy of a great stage production. I was lucky enough to catch last year’s production at the Oregon Shakespeare Festival which was truly awesome. In general, and especially with the comedies, the plays have to be performed and seen, not read. Like Chekov, what seems overwrought on the page is complex and nuanced in a good production. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/14 "2010-12-10T18:40:12Z")
> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#): > > Say what you like about Bill, he was rather prolific. At school we mainly looked at his comedies (_A Midsummer Night’s Dream_ and _Twelfth Night_), which I think was a big mistake - looking back, I can’t stand them. The jokes fall totally flat and the puns are unbearable. Mind you, I can’t exactly blame him - in 500 years I’m sure people will be scratching their heads at _The Simpsons_. “The goggles, they do nothing”? I suspect that when Shakespeare was writing plays intended primarily as comedies, he made a point of using very broad humor in order to make sure his audience would get the jokes. Comedies _have_ to be funny or they don’t work - and laugh-lines that don’t get laughs are, by definition, not funny. But Shakespeare had plenty of very dark and funny lines in his histories and tragedies, and I think those hold up very well today. In these plays, I suspect Shakespeare felt he could get away with most of his audience missing a joke, so he was free to be more subtle in his humor. Richard Gloucester and Edmund in particular have some frankly great lines, as do many of the supporting characters in Richard III. (Remember the exchange between the assassins? “Ah, where’s your conscience now?” “In Gloucester’s purse!”) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/15 "2010-12-10T18:42:27Z")
I checked off Richard III, myself - it was hard, but the protagonist is such a fascinating bastard, he makes the play easily the most _fun_ of the Bard’s works. ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/16 "2010-12-10T18:43:10Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I’ll give you two guesses which one I picked, and the first guess doesn’t count. Yeah, me too. I picked _Hamlet_ here, but my favorite oration from Shakespeare is Marc Antony’s “I come not to praise Caesar” speech, how he rouses the crowd while still technically staying within the bounds layed down by the conspirators. Marlon Brando’s version literally gives me goosebumps. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/17 "2010-12-10T18:43:21Z")
Of all Shakespeare’s plays, _West Side Story_ has the best music. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/18 "2010-12-10T18:52:42Z")
If we are saying the best, it’s a toss up between Hamlet and Lear. Personally I am going to go with Lear which I think has a little more depth to it than Hamlet and isn’t bogged down by so much extraneous nonsense as Hamlet is. My favorite is The Tempest. Not his best, but very fun. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/19 "2010-12-10T18:52:55Z")
I like Hamlet quite a bit, but went with King Lear. (Why checkboxes?) ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620/20 "2010-12-10T18:59:30Z")
I personally enjoy Othello the most. So many beautiful lines; such a human tragedy. And Iago is such a wanker, for no apparent reason. But Hamlet is far and away the best. Such a deep and thoughtful exploration of depression before the concept even had a name. I have of late, wherefore I know not, lost all my mirth. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-best-shakespeare-play/563620.md?page=2)