# The Biden Administration - the first 1,500 days \[NOT an Afghanistan discussion\]

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 8, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057 "2020-11-08T15:09:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/682 "2021-04-22T17:32:22Z")

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> [@DeadTreasSecretaries](#):
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> I’m a descendant of holocaust survivors and personally to me it’s very important to internationally recognize genocide. Even if (as in this case) it clearly won’t result in a direct response like sanctions or if it might have a negative effect on relations with an ally.-

Okay, that makes sense.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/683 "2021-04-24T00:57:01Z")

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Biden has reportedly given Erdogan the unwelcome news in a phone call.

> **[President Biden told Turkish President Erdoğan he's planning to recognize...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/23/politics/biden-erdogan-armenian-genocide/index.html)**
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> President Joe Biden told his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on Friday he plans to recognize the 1915 massacre of Armenians by the Ottoman Empire as a genocide, according to a person familiar with the conversation.

"In a readout of the call, the White House said Biden “convey[ed] his interest in a constructive bilateral relationship with expanded areas of cooperation and effective management of disagreements.”

“Oh, and about that genocide thing…”

It’s doubtful this will have much practical importance, apart from spotlighting the evils of genocide denial and further marginalizing its practitioners.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/684 "2021-04-24T01:54:02Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> It’s doubtful this will have much practical importance,

Stock up on Nutella.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/685 "2021-04-24T02:41:48Z")

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And Turkish taffy?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/686 "2021-04-24T11:54:46Z")

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Do you mean Turkish delight?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/687 "2021-04-24T17:16:50Z")

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What, you think we are in narnia?

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**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/688 "2021-04-25T00:37:05Z")

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Who do these Turks think they are? Americans?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/689 "2021-04-25T05:27:42Z")

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[The VP does her best, in this twitter video, to help a man struggling to give a short speech](https://twitter.com/tommyxtopher/status/1385694155561701379). Kind of a contrast to “I am so much smarter than everyone”.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/690 "2021-04-25T15:42:35Z")

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From NBC News: [Poll: At 100 days, Biden's approval remains strong. Can the honeymoon last?](https://www.aol.com/news/poll-100-days-bidens-approval-110200587.html)

And see:

> **[Kamala Harris cements her place in Biden's inner circle during a...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/25/politics/kamala-harris-cnntv/index.html)**
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> Vice President Kamala Harris was huddled with other White House officials in President Joe Biden's private dining room last week when the room let out a "collective exhale." A Minnesota jury had found Derek Chauvin guilty of murdering George Floyd.

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**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/691 "2021-04-25T17:24:17Z")

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I think Biden might be in a similar situation that Obama was with his approval - right now everyone knows we are in a crisis, and it’s evident to a lot of people that Biden is at the very least taking it much more seriously than his predecessor.

The honeymoon period will end once there is more of a sense that we are in a recovery rather than a crisis, and I think his approval is going to be more tied to how much people feel the recovery is stagnant vs. how much they feel like it’s moving fast enough.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/692 "2021-04-26T02:02:23Z")

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There was no “honeymoon”. When you compare to previous presidents, most of them started out at +30 or higher (net approval - disapproval). Joe the President started out at +17 and has dropped maybe 3 but looks quite steady, really. No other president has stayed in that upper range for very long but slid rather steadily down. To me, it looks like, by starting low, Joe is already near his stable position and will probably not lose much over time (though he is 23 points higher than his predecessor was 4 years ago).

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/693 "2021-04-26T12:41:30Z")

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Sing it, baby!

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/joe-biden-s-first-100-days-reshaped-america/ar-BB1g3VtQ?rt=1&ocid=Win10NewsApp&referrerID=InAppShare](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/joe-biden-s-first-100-days-reshaped-america/ar-BB1g3VtQ?rt=1&ocid=Win10NewsApp&referrerID=InAppShare)

> During the first hundred days of Joe Biden’s presidency, it has dawned on Republicans that the man their standard-bearer [once mocked as “Sleepy Joe”](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/trump-nicknames-sleep-joe-corrupt-joe-bully-campaign-losing.html) is a formidable adversary. And the quality that has made him so effective up to this point is, well, his sleepiness. “I think Biden is a disaster for the country, and his ideas are an atrocity. But he’s boring. He’s just boring,” complained alt-media personality Dan Bongino. This frustration is not confined to the party’s entertainment wing. “It’s always harder to fight against a nice person because usually people will sort of give him the benefit of the doubt,” grumbled Senator John Cornyn. At a recent speech to donors, Donald Trump was reduced to mocking his successor as [“Saintly Joe Biden,”](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/04/trump-reprises-election-grievances-attacks-mcconnell.html) perhaps the feeblest moment in his decades-long career of schoolyard taunts.  
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> Biden’s success is a product of the crucial yet little-appreciated insight that substantive advances don’t require massive public fights.  
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> Biden’s success is a product of the crucial yet little-appreciated insight that substantive advances don’t require massive public fights.  
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Ya think?

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**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/694 "2021-04-26T14:11:22Z")

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The Republicans during the election kept harping that “Joe’s old!” Joe is responding by declaring: “yeah, I’m old. In fact, I’m too old. Too old to put up with your BS.”

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/695 "2021-04-26T14:38:23Z")

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My local NPR station has created a “[report card](https://www.wbur.org/npr/990305593/100-days-how-biden-has-fared-so-far-on-his-promises?utm_source=WBUR+Editorial+Newsletters&utm_campaign=859854f73a-WBURTODAY_2021_04_27&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_d0781a0a0c-859854f73a-134675521)” on Biden’s first 100 days in office, comparing what he has achieved to what he promised on the campaign trail. As you would expect, it is a mixed bag.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/696 "2021-04-26T15:59:34Z")

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Another take along those lines: [Biden's first 100 days: Where he stands on key promises [Video]](https://www.aol.com/news/bidens-first-100-days-where-043518743-093144428.html)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/697 "2021-04-26T16:55:26Z")

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Well, what about DJT’s promise to Make America Great Again-- how did he do on that? Does being first in the world in COVID deaths count?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/698 "2021-04-26T17:02:51Z")

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The AP has the original source article with helpful graphics:

> **[Biden's first 100 days: Where he stands on key promises](https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-climate-iran-nuclear-immigration-de7b288aa2b4315b5b7fe38559a6e666)**
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> WASHINGTON (AP) — As he rounds out his first 100 days in office, President Joe Biden’s focus on reining in

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/699 "2021-04-27T15:46:30Z")

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Good graphic, but lousy header.

“25 promises kept out of 61 promises” makes it sound like for the most part he hasn’t been doing the things he said he would. In fact, in all but three of the promises he has made progress in that direction. In some of these in particular, progress was the promise. For example “Take steps to conserve 30% of U.S. lands and waters by 2030” it’s not 2030 yet. In one case he made every effort to complete the promise but was blocked by the courts. So in my glass half full view, I think he’s doing quite well.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/700 "2021-04-27T19:14:43Z")

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Also worth a read: [https://www.aol.com/biggest-surprises-bidens-first-100-213317337.html](https://www.aol.com/biggest-surprises-bidens-first-100-213317337.html)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days-not-an-afghanistan-discussion/925057/701 "2021-04-27T20:13:56Z")

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The President’s and Vice President’s official portraits have been unveiled - lookin’ good!

> **[Joe Biden](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden)**
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> Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. (/ˈbaɪdən/ (listen) BY-dən; born November 20, 1942) is an American politician who is the 46th and current president of the United States. A member of the Democratic Party, he previously served as the 47th vice president from 2009 to 2017 under President Barack Obama, and represented Delaware in the United States Senate from 1973 to 2009.
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> **[Kamala Harris](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris)**
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> Kamala Devi Harris\[a\] (/ˈkɑːmələ ˈdeɪvi/ (listen) KAH-mə-lə DAY-vee; born October 20, 1964) is an American politician and attorney who is the 49th and current vice president of the United States. She is the first female vice president and the highest-ranking female official in U.S. history, as well as the first African American and first Asian American vice president. A member of the Democratic Party, she previously served as the attorney gen...

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