# The Biden Transition Officially Begins

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 23, 2020, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310 "2020-11-23T23:34:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310/61 "2020-11-25T01:53:37Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> A pretty good movie? “In Bruges.”
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> On edit: I forgot about “Professor T!” Excellent show. I love listening to the mix of languages. .

And I’d forgotten _In Bruges_—as you say, it’s a good one.

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310/62 "2020-11-25T14:16:31Z")

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This thread has become everything I wanted it to be(lgium).

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310/63 "2020-11-26T02:51:07Z")

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> [@Daithi\_Lacha](#):
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> This thread has become everything I wanted it to be(lgium). .

Well, until Biden declares some more Cabinet members, it may well continue along those lines. We ghent the thread we deserve, after all.

The current list of Cabinet-level officials is:

- Secretary of State – Antony Blinken
- Secretary of the Treasury – Janet Yellen
- Secretary of Homeland Security – Alejandro Mayorkas
- National Security Advisor – Jake Sullvan
- Director of National Intelligence – Avril Haines
- US Ambassador to the United Nations – Linda Thomas-Greenfield
- US Special Presidential Envoy for Climate – John Kerry

The one a lot of us are particularly interested in is Attorney General. Today’s speech by Biden raised concerns among those who fear he will embrace a “forgive and forget” policy toward Trump Administration lawbreakers (including the Horrible Object himself).

Biden defines himself as a person who’s primarily characterized by “love,” which certainly makes a nice change. But an Attorney General, at the very least, must be characterized by a concern for “justice.”

Investigations and possible indictments of Trump era lawbreakers is properly the domain of the Justice Department and not of the President. It’s good that we’re not dealing with Mr. Vindictive. But the AG should at least be Mr.-or-Ms. Rule-of-Law.

An article in WaPo yesterday offers some names (Sally Yates, Doug Jones, Jeh Johnson, etc.) and an overview of the controversy over what a Biden AG should prioritize. It concludes:

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> In part because of the competing Democratic priorities, the Biden transition team is considering rolling out his attorney general pick at the same time as other top nominees for the department, such as the deputy attorney general, associate attorney general and solicitor general, according to people familiar with the discussions. Presenting a slate of nominees who have a range of experience covering a number of issues, rather than a single person for a single job, could blunt any unhappiness over an individual pick, these people said.

> **[Biden searches for attorney general to restore Justice Dept.’s independence,...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/biden-attorney-general/2020/11/24/bbd7da7a-2e97-11eb-bae0-50bb17126614_story.html)**
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> A politician or a prosecutor? The next attorney general will reflect the new administration’s priorities.

That does sound smart.

It seems likely that Biden will want “restoring morale” to be priority #1, but a lot of us believe that brushing lawbreaking under the rug–even if it was committed by a Presidential Administration–is as bad for the country as is the low morale at Justice.  
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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310/64 "2020-11-26T03:20:36Z")

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I suspect that if there’s going to be any attempt to prosecute members of 45’s admin, up to and including 45 himself, Sally Yates may not be the best choice. Since she was fired 10 days into her position of Acting AG for refusing to carry out a Trump order, any move toward investigating Trump and his goblins may just look like sour grapes and/or revenge. Even if it’s all on the up-and-up and totally legit, it would open them up to harsh criticism.

I think it may be Jeh Johnson, as it seems Biden might want to have someone who’s not a white male at the top of the Justice Department (looking at you Doug Jones). Maybe Tom Perez, which would allow Biden to slide someone like Stacy Abrams or Jaime Harrison into the top spot at the DNC.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310/65 "2020-11-26T03:45:05Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Even if it’s all on the up-and-up and totally legit, it would open them up to harsh criticism. -

Like that’s not going to happen no matter who gets appointed?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310/66 "2020-11-26T03:52:12Z")

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But why invite it? And why offer up any reason for investigations to be discredited right off the bat just because of who’s in charge of the DoJ? The optics would be absolutely terrible.

I mean, I’ve wanted Sally Yates as AG for over a year, and I’ve been saying that every chance I’ve had on these boards. I’d also love to see TrumpCo get prosecuted and tossed in the pokey for their treachery. But I just don’t see both of those things happening. If the plan is to potentially investigate and prosecute, why put a person who was actually fired by Trump in charge of it? Especially when there are plenty of other great candidates for AG out there who weren’t shitcanned by Trump.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310/67 "2020-11-26T05:35:10Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I’d also love to see TrumpCo get prosecuted and tossed in the pokey for their treachery.

I hope and think Biden wont do it. Let New York and other states do it, then Bidens hands are clean.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310/68 "2020-11-26T05:40:19Z")

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And yeah, that’s the other possibility, which I’d also love to see. So I guess my dream scenario: AG Sally Yates goes largely hands-off when it comes to investigating and prosecuting TrumpCo, but the states go all in and put as many of those dirtbags in prison as they can.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310/69 "2020-11-26T05:48:26Z")

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If Trump and his cronies are legitimately prosecuted at the federal level for actual crimes committed then how would Biden’s hands be “dirty”?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310/70 "2020-11-26T06:12:35Z")

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To 70 Million Americans it will look like Politics, and it will set a bad precedent.

Biden has already said he doesnt want to, and he is right.

Let NY do it.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310/71 "2020-11-29T23:23:02Z")

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So it’s an all-female communications team:

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> Jen Psaki, …was chosen as the incoming White House press secretary. Kate Bedingfield, who was the deputy campaign manager for the Biden-Harris campaign, will serve as White House Communications Director.
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> …Symone Sanders, …will serve as a senior adviser and chief spokesperson for Harris.
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> …Elizabeth Alexander, a senior adviser to the Biden-Harris campaign who will serve as first lady Jill Biden’s communication director.
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> Ashley Etienne, a senior campaign adviser who will serve as Harris’ communications director.
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> Karine Jean Pierre, a senior adviser to Biden who will serve as deputy press secretary.
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> Pili Tobar, a Biden-Harris campaign director and … will serve as deputy White House communications director. …

> **[Biden and Harris announce all-female communications team](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-harris-announce-all-female-communications-team-n1249293)**
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> Biden said the team will "bring diverse perspectives to their work and a shared commitment to building this country back better."

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310/72 "2020-11-30T11:52:33Z")

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At the very least, I hope the federal IRS will finish that eternal Trump audit already, and bill Trump for whatever he owes (widely speculated to be in the $100MIL range).

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-transition-officially-begins/926310/73 "2020-12-07T00:36:03Z")

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Perhaps not wanting to overshadow Biden, Harris waited until this weekend to start announcements regarding her own team:

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> … announced on Twitter that she was appointing Tina Flournoy as her chief of staff, Rohini Kosoglu as her domestic policy advisor and Nancy McEldowney as her national security advisor. …

Flournoy was Bill Clinton’s chief of staff for eight years, so there’s some continuity there (that might or might not be welcomed by various wings of the Democratic Party).

> **[Kamala Harris announces new staff picks, marking first time women will hold...](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/04/kamala-harris-appoints-all-women-to-top-3-spots-in-vp-office.html)**
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> This will be the first time in history that women will hold the top three spots in the U.S. vice president's office.

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