# The Big Bang Theory 12/6--The Fish Guts Displacement

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 6, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239 "2012-12-06T21:47:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/81 "2012-12-10T15:45:03Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> One thing bugged me about the Vaporub scene - in an older episode where Sheldon was sick and Amy had to take care of him, he asked her to put Vaporub on his chest and he wouldn’t do it because it made his hands smell funny. So why didn’t he don latex gloves before putting in on Amy?? Let’s keep our stories straight, people! 😛

Nitpick: Penny took care of him. That was the episode that introduced “Soft Kitty.” I’m surprised Sheldon didn’t sing it to Amy.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/82 "2012-12-10T15:50:45Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Nitpick: Penny took care of him. That was the episode that introduced “Soft Kitty.” I’m surprised Sheldon didn’t sing it to Amy.

I was waiting for this to happen. I suppose they wanted to concentrate on the sex.

I was a little touched by Sheldon’s modicum of concern for Amy’s well being. It was a big step for him.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/83 "2012-12-10T15:55:11Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> I was a little touched by Sheldon’s modicum of concern for Amy’s well being. It was a big step for him.

Do you think it was actual concern or just a Data-esque lookup on the “Expected behavior for a boyfriend for given situations” table? I’m leaning towards the latter.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/84 "2012-12-10T15:56:54Z")

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Probably a combination of the two. Sheldon started out in the relationship as a robot, but AFF is slowly humanizing him. He’s feeling emotions he never knew he had. Eventually he’ll become a real boy.

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/85 "2012-12-10T16:06:52Z")

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and AFF is changing too. she started as a female Sheldon. then a strong attraction to Penny and Bernie. changing to a nonphysical relationship to Sheldon.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/86 "2012-12-10T16:36:32Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Probably a combination of the two. Sheldon started out in the relationship as a robot, but AFF is slowly humanizing him. He’s feeling emotions he never knew he had. Eventually he’ll become a real boy.

I’d say that was about right. Right now he’s probably more than 50% motivated by selfishness, but anything less than 100% is a breakthrough for him.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/87 "2012-12-10T17:19:04Z")

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Decent episode, but I think Sheldon acted mostly out of character. I still say the show needs more nerdy and less sexy.

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/88 "2012-12-10T17:21:29Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Nitpick: Penny took care of him. That was the episode that introduced “Soft Kitty.” I’m surprised Sheldon didn’t sing it to Amy.

Yeah, I know it was Penny - I blame a defective keyboard… 😉

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/89 "2012-12-10T18:19:57Z")

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I think AFF’s first foray into her own sexuality occurred on the “Hoo!” episode when she found herself extremely atracted to Penny’s ex.

Count me in the number who found the spanking gross. A call back to Penny’s comment about not saying “Ew!” because that’s what I was thinking. They’ve pushed the Penny crush thing too far in the past as well; I feel like they are in a game of chicken with the writers on _How I met Your Mother_. (the Lily/Robin curiosity) This could have stopped with the discussion and her encouragement of the idea-nothing more was gained by going through with it. Forget Jumping the Shark, this was BBT’s Lemmewinks moment.

The major surprise for me in this episode though was when Sheldon said " . . . and beside you are my girlfriend and I care about your well-being." That was some pretty forthright language for Sheldon, and AFF should have reacted more IMO.

B’s Mom was wonderful. She hit the tone just right with “Oh no, if he didn’t like it, he wouldn’t go.”

Disagree completely about Mayim’s acting ability. I think she’s acheived some startlingly nuanced responses that perfectly reflect her character.

I predict Sheldon admits to having felt a stirring during the baths, but hid it in a gentlemanly manner becuase he thought AFF was sick.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/90 "2012-12-10T18:29:43Z")

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I thought they were going to take it a bit farther, actually. I expected Amy to say something like “If that’s not working, you could try pulling my hair a bit.”

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**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/91 "2012-12-10T18:36:30Z")

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> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#):
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> yeah we’re watching the same show, jackdavinci. I do understand the title and I can handle the coitus jokes and the masturbation jokes. It’s the spanking that bothered me. I won’t go into why it does. but it does. to assume that most women like to be "disciplined’ by men is just repellent. Has no place in a comedy. I don’t find handcuffs or any sort of bondage funny. But that’s just me. As I said before, the show can go whatever direction it wants. I don’t have to follow

You do realize that a lot of women (and a lot of men too) genuinely do obtain sexual enjoyment from being spanked, right?

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/92 "2012-12-10T18:44:17Z")

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> [@stanger](#):
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> I can believe that Sheldon is more interested in his academics and personal interests than girls and sex, and for that reason, has not had any real interest in a girlfriend or intimacy with one, but I am sure he is at least familiar with the basics as such, if for no other reason, then as a study on humans and their lifestyles and motivations.
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> While I can understand that a relationship with a girl, both romantically and sexually, may be considered a waste of his intellectual time and energy, I would think there would be _some_ kind of sexual interest inside him, even if it was repressed and ignored. He does have other common emotions that he seems to repress on the show as wasteful and unproductive.
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> I would expect him to realize that, in effect, massaging AFF’s boobs and bathing her would have decidedly sexual connotations for AFF, and possibly some for him. Is he so totally asexual that he has no sexual feelings or responses at all? Even his role model, Mr. Spock, had urges that couldn’t be ignored. Even if those urges were not part of Spock’s normal lifestyle, it was still a natural and inevitable part of Vulcan nature.

There was an episode in a prior season (IIRC) in which the guys got a bit of a giggle at accusing Sheldon of not having genitals. His retort at the end of the scene was “Yes, I _do_ have genitals, and they are both functional and aesthetically pleasing.”

Ever since seeing that scene, I’ve kinda been waiting for another shoe to drop, so to speak.

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> I think AFF’s first foray into her own sexuality occurred on the “Hoo!” episode when she found herself extremely atracted to Penny’s ex.

One thing they’ve never really called back to was AFF’s admission that she’s had 128 electrically induced orgasms. For science.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/94 "2012-12-10T18:47:10Z")

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yes SecretaryofEvil - I realize people get off on things that I don’t. I think I made it clear that I was only stating my own opinion. I would be surprised however if I’m not the only one who wished they would dial back the “sex” and go back to the “nerdy” aspects of the show. If it’s just going to become another filthy joke extravaganza like Mike & Molly, Two Broke Girls, and Two and a Half Men, there really is no reason for me to watch any more.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/95 "2012-12-10T20:28:21Z")

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> [@SecretaryofEvil](#):
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> You do realize that a lot of women (and a lot of men too) genuinely do obtain sexual enjoyment from being spanked, right?

Yes, and I am further given to understand that there are people who enjoy watching video tapes of it ocurring.

But I had previously expected such things to be accessible through the back rooms of video stores and newstands, not on network television.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/96 "2012-12-10T20:38:18Z")

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Won’t somebody think of the children?

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> One thing they’ve never really called back to was AFF’s admission that she’s had 128 electrically induced orgasms. For science.

Don’t forget the “stress relief techniques for ladies” AFF devoloped & offered to share with Penny.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/98 "2012-12-10T21:05:38Z")

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“I call mine Gerard.”

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/99 "2012-12-10T21:15:14Z")

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TruCelt - I’m agreeing with you, assuming you’re not joking. I didn’t put it that way cause I’ve been called a prude, and worse, too many times here. There are many things that consenting adults do that I’m perfectly fine with, but I do not expect to see on prime time tv, or on what was once a fairly family-friendly sitcom.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-12-6-the-fish-guts-displacement/643239/100 "2012-12-10T21:57:40Z")

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> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#):
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> …but I do not expect to see on prime time tv, or on what was once a fairly family-friendly sitcom.

Didn’t the pilot have Leonard & Sheldon selling their sperm at a clinic? :dubious:

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