# The Big Bang Theory February 7, 2013: The Spoiler Alert Segmentation **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 8, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715 "2013-02-08T16:53:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/1 "2013-02-08T16:53:45Z")
“We droppin’ science, son!” Not sure how I feel about the fleeting glimpses of Mrs. Wolowitz. On the one hand I feel like we may finally get to see her someday (although I read somewhere that either Lorre or Prady said she will **never** be seen); on the other hand I feel like the incessant little hints at her face will become hackneyed, like Wilson on _Home Improvement_. FWIW, the _Walking Dead_ spoiler was a spoiler for me! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/2 "2013-02-08T17:05:08Z")
Yeah, was this the first episode we saw ANYTHING of Mrs. Wolowitz? I can’t remember even seeing a blurry kaftan breeze by a doorway before last night, let alone two arms in clear focus. And, while Leonard was kind of out of line just assuming that he could move in with Penny, Penny needs to figure out what’s going on in that relationship. The whole ambivalence/I love him/I don’t love him/I want to be with him/I don’t want to be with him blahblahblah thing needs to get at least to the point where she manages to sustain one of those emotional states for a couple of episodes, maybe. It’s starting to look like an accelerated version of Ross and Rachel. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/3 "2013-02-08T17:06:16Z")
> [@HeyHomie](#): > > FWIW, the _Walking Dead_ spoiler was a spoiler for me! :eek: Me, too! I haven’t started watching that show yet, but it’s on my list (though I’m sure I’ll forget all about it by the time I get to that episode). I was really surprised when they did that with something so recent. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/4 "2013-02-08T17:09:05Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Yeah, was this the first episode we saw ANYTHING of Mrs. Wolowitz? I can’t remember even seeing a blurry kaftan breeze by a doorway before last night, let alone two arms in clear focus. You could see her in the aerial shot of Howard and Bernadette’s wedding. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveroptic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiveroptic/32/8257_2.png) [@Fiveroptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveroptic)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/5 "2013-02-08T17:27:07Z")
I dearly love this show so it’s with sadness that with last week’s episode and last night’s, I’ve begun to see signs of Fonzie putting on his waterskis. ☹ Sheldon, Penny, and Leonard are particularly crueler this season than they’ve been in the past and it really bothers me as I’ve really enjoyed the underlying fondness they’ve all had for each other. It seems like that’s gone. It also felt like the writers threw in a scene with Howard and Bernadette as a token gesture or something. It wasn’t funny and felt totally out of place. Then again I was crabby last night so I could be entirely wrong. I frequently am. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/6 "2013-02-08T17:54:32Z")
Did not like seeing even that much of Mrs. Wolowitz (she should remain unseen forever), wondered if anybody would say “WTF!” over the Walking Dead spoiler since that really was both major and relatively recent, and at the same time thought it ridiculous that even if Leonard somehow had avoided reading or watching Harry Potter that he wouldn’t know by now that Dumbledore dies (it was on tee shirts and a meme for a year). And for somebody who once couldn’t lie at all, Sheldon has gotten remarkably adept in that skill, and to all that add that they’ve done the “Leonard says to hell with being roommates and Sheldon flips” plot before, this was just a tweak. All in all a post-shark episode. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/7 "2013-02-08T18:04:11Z")
Interesting episode. Not typical. Poor Raj. As if his life was not bad enough already. More signs that Sheldon has an actual emotional relationship with Amy, and a somewhat normal one at that. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/8 "2013-02-08T18:04:31Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > even if Leonard somehow had avoided reading or watching Harry Potter that he wouldn’t know by now that Dumbledore dies (it was on tee shirts and a meme for a year). I thought Sheldon said “Dobby dies in Book 7”, not Dumbledore. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/9 "2013-02-08T18:10:42Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I thought Sheldon said “Dobby dies in Book 7”, not Dumbledore. The show opened with Sheldon spoiling the fact that Dumbledore dies in Book 6. The Dobby spoiler was later. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/10 "2013-02-08T18:11:54Z")
> [@HeyHomie](#): > > The show opened with Sheldon spoiling the fact that Dumbledore dies in Book 6. The Dobby spoiler was later. Ah, okay. I came in on the tail end of the cold open. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/11 "2013-02-08T18:12:34Z")
> [@Fiveroptic](#): > > I dearly love this show so it’s with sadness that with last week’s episode and last night’s, I’ve begun to see signs of Fonzie putting on his waterskis. I completely disagree. Last night’s episode was comparatively weak, but last week’s episode had me and Mrs. Homie in stitches. When Penny said “So Sheldon when are you and Amy going to sleep together,” and did it so deadpan, Mrs. Homie about fell out of her chair! And Kaley totally deserves a Best Actress nod for that scene alone. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/12 "2013-02-08T18:15:24Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Interesting episode. Not typical. Poor Raj. As if his life was not bad enough already. More signs that Sheldon has an actual emotional relationship with Amy, and a somewhat normal one at that. I just hope that they don’t make them too normal of a couple. That would spoil the fun! ---
**Author:** ![Fiveroptic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiveroptic/32/8257_2.png) [@Fiveroptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveroptic)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/13 "2013-02-08T18:15:27Z")
> [@HeyHomie](#): > > I completely disagree. Last night’s episode was comparatively weak, but last week’s episode had me and Mrs. Homie in stitches. When Penny said “So Sheldon when are you and Amy going to sleep together,” and did it so deadpan, Mrs. Homie about fell out of her chair! And Kaley totally deserves a Best Actress nod for that scene alone. Actually, I enjoyed that part of last week’s episode. But the rest of it fell like a pat of butter from the ceiling of a junior high school cafeteria. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/14 "2013-02-08T18:38:05Z")
will Raj become Mrs. Wolowitz’s surrogate son? will he like it? will Raj do a Howard on Stuart and make him Mrs. Wolowitz’s surrogate son? ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/15 "2013-02-08T18:44:06Z")
> [@Fiveroptic](#): > > I dearly love this show so it’s with sadness that with last week’s episode and last night’s, I’ve begun to see signs of Fonzie putting on his waterskis. ☹ Sheldon, Penny, and Leonard are particularly crueler this season than they’ve been in the past and it really bothers me as I’ve really enjoyed the underlying fondness they’ve all had for each other. It seems like that’s gone. It also felt like the writers threw in a scene with Howard and Bernadette as a token gesture or something. It wasn’t funny and felt totally out of place. > > Then again I was crabby last night so I could be entirely wrong. I frequently am. The Howard and Bernadette scene felt like fanservice - seems we’re seeing a lot of Melissa Rauch in skimpy clothing this season. Not that that’s a bad thing, mind you… ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/16 "2013-02-08T20:14:50Z")
I think Penny is being very consistent. She has commitment issues and Leonard is a pushy man. It was something very similar to this that broke them up in the first place. He goes too fast for her. She loves him and doesn’t want to break up with him like the last time, so she went along instead of resisting like the last time. Was this whole episode about getting Amy to move in next door? That would be much more convenient for storytelling. Is Penny’s apartment the same as the guys in that there are two bedrooms? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/17 "2013-02-08T20:21:00Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Is Penny’s apartment the same as the guys in that there are two bedrooms? Unlike the guys’ apartment, Penny’s seems to be totally inconsistent as far as layout and the actual physical plan of the building goes. Unless the building is really weirdly shaped. Her bedroom extends back into where the stairwell is, for one thing. And there MAY be another bedroom somewhere back there, but we never see it or the door to it. Come to think of it, I’m not sure where the bathroom in her apartment is. I mean, we’ve seen her go in and out of it from her bedroom, but I can’t think of where it would FIT. It seems like it should either be hanging off the wall of the building or extending back into the elevator shaft. The guys’ apartment, OTOH, doesn’t seem very out-of-plan. The bedrooms appear to extend out from what should be the building wall, judging by where the living room window is. But that’s kind of it. And that closet upstage in the living room is POSSIBLE without somehow sticking out of the building, but I’m not sure. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/18 "2013-02-08T20:32:51Z")
Don’t get too caught up on the layout; it’s a set designed to work w/ a 3 camera setup and a live studio audience. What works best for that takes priority over any architectural logic or reality. That being said I’m pretty sure Penny’s apartment has consistantly been a one bedroom; not that would stop Amy. I think it’s more likely for Amy to scoop up a vacant apartment in the building. She’d probally do it without telling anyone until after the fact too. Have they ever clarified if there are only 2 apartments per floor, or if there are more down the hall in direction of the 4th wall? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/19 "2013-02-08T21:03:11Z")
One episode had a neighbor who had heard Penny and Leonard going at it. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715/20 "2013-02-08T21:37:50Z")
They should never show Mrs Wallowitz for the same reason we never saw Charlie Brown’s little red-haired girl: each one of us can imagine her better than she could ever be in real life. Also, like Maris in _Frasier_, there’s probably no woman in the world who has the same attributes that have been ascribed to her character. On the other hand, the walls in the hallway outside the Wallowitzes’ bathroom are covered with what only can be family photographs, and there are some that seem to show the Mister and Missus together. That might be how she looked 30 years ago, and we can extrapolate from that how she must look today. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-february-7-2013-the-spoiler-alert-segmentation/649715.md?page=2)