# The Big Bang Theory, Season 10, Episode 7 (November 3, 2016) -- "The Veracity Elasticity" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 3, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557 "2016-11-03T21:00:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/41 "2016-11-05T17:49:51Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > I think you mean this episode from 2011 [The Skank Reflex Analysis | The Big Bang Theory Wiki | Fandom](http://bigbangtheory.wikia.com/wiki/The_Skank_Reflex_Analysis) > > “Penny asks Amy if she can sleep at her apartment for a while and Amy delightfully welcomes her, exclaiming about how she can finally experience a traditional girls’ sleepover.” > > "Amy has a secret language, which she dubs “Op.” In the language she spells out every word (except for the first in a sentence) and adds ‘op’ to the end of each consonant. For example, instead of “sounds great,” it’s “sounds gop rop e a top!” It is probably a tribute to Pig Latin. " Amy offered to teach her Op but they were speaking Ubbi Dubbi on this episode. They even name dropped it. The ages of Amy and Penny only have a little to do with it. I taught my kids Ubbi Dubbi when they were little (although I doubt they’d remember it now. Taught 'em the finger thing too). ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/42 "2016-11-05T17:59:12Z")
Uh, apparently the sponsors found the Sex Dungeon scene a bit too spicy and had to tone it down. That is, cover up Penny’s top. Link: [http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/watch-big-bang-theory-scene-9200321](http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/watch-big-bang-theory-scene-9200321) ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/43 "2016-11-05T18:24:05Z")
I don’t see anything in that article that says that they “toned it down” and “covered up her top”… just that some advertisers reportedly “banned” it (in the UK I guess?) but that’s exactly how it showed when I watched it. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/44 "2016-11-05T18:43:08Z")
> [@magnusblitz](#): > > I don’t see anything in that article that says that they “toned it down” and “covered up her top”… just that some advertisers reportedly “banned” it (in the UK I guess?) but that’s exactly how it showed when I watched it. Looks like what they aired to me. Maybe some markets cut it, like in East Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/45 "2016-11-05T18:52:07Z")
For what it’s worth, the characters are sometimes meant to be younger than the real ages of the actors. The real ages (and my guesses at the supposed ages) are as follows: J. G. (Leonard) is 41, but the character is probably meant to be about 35. J. P. (Sheldon) is 43, but the character is probably meant to be about 35. K. C. (Penny) is 30, and the character is probably meant to be about that age. S. H. (Howard) is 35, and the character is probably meant to be about that age. K. N. (Raj) is 35, and the character is probably meant to be about that age. M. R. (Bernadette) is 36, and the character is probably meant to be about 32. M. B. (Amy) is 40, but the character is probably meant to be about 35. K. S. (Stuart) is 45, but the character is probably meant to be about 40. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/46 "2016-11-05T23:26:29Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > Oh, I didn’t like this side of Penny at all! The dominatrix outfit made up for it. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/47 "2016-11-06T13:08:37Z")
Agreed, best episode in a long while. No really big ha-ha’s but quite many little chuckles. One thing I think helped is that they focused on just two couples. Raj, Howard and Bernadette were quite secondary but playing into that. E.g., Raj stating that the fight didn’t involve him and he was going to eat. In addition, there wasn’t really two separate storylines for Amy/Sheldon, Penny/Leonard. It was basically all one storyline. The couples were going thru parallel issues. Trying to squeeze in 3 or 4 unrelated storylines into one episode is a bad idea. This episode shows the right way to do things. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/48 "2016-11-06T14:33:23Z")
> [@standingwave](#): > > Who knows where he picked up on sex dungeon but Sheldon has used the phrase before. From last year’s episode guest starring Richard Feynman’s van: > _Scene: The van._ > Sheldon: It’s bad enough I’m being taken against my will. I don’t see why it has to be in some hippie’s mobile **sex dungeon**. > Howard: Well, Sheldon, there’s something about this van that you’re going to find very interesting. > Sheldon: It runs on syphilis? > Raj: This van was owned and driven by your personal physics hero, Richard Feynman. You know, now that I think about it a bit, Feynman is a curious hero for Sheldon. Feynman was quite social, very devoted to his first wife during her illness, played with salsa bands in Rio, took up art in his later years. He was something of an experimentalist, demonstrating how the _Challenger_ accident happened by dipping a piece of o-ring in ice water. And he was, from what I’ve read, an exceptionally gifted teacher. Sheldon has shown little interest in being social, and is downright contemptuous of experimentalists and teaching. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/49 "2016-11-06T17:15:07Z")
Robot Arm writes: \> . . . Feynman was quite social, very devoted to his first wife during her illness . . . It’s not clear if he cheated on his first wife. He certainly did on his second and third wives. He was “quite social” in the sense that he didn’t remotely care about being faithful to a wife or girlfriend. And in that he was different than Sheldon also, since he had enormous amounts of sex and Sheldon has only had sex once. And while Feynman was social in the sense that he liked to talk with other people, some people who knew him well considered him kind of a jerk. Which means that he was like Sheldon. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/50 "2016-11-06T17:39:19Z")
Regarding Sheldon and vans. There is no consistency in his knowledge about the possible creepiness of vans. Previously in “The Benefactor Factor” S4E15, Sheldon comments: “Just because the nice man is offering you candy, doesn’t mean you should jump into his windowless van.” But in “The Hook-up Reverberation” S8E04, Sheldon is unaware of the problem with driving around picking up children and giving them candy to take them to their comic book store. What Sheldon knows or does not about these matters varies from episode to episode. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/51 "2016-11-06T17:45:11Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > You know, now that I think about it a bit, Feynman is a curious hero for Sheldon. Feynman was quite social, very devoted to his first wife during her illness, played with salsa bands in Rio, took up art in his later years. He was something of an experimentalist, demonstrating how the _Challenger_ accident happened by dipping a piece of o-ring in ice water. And he was, from what I’ve read, an exceptionally gifted teacher. Sheldon has shown little interest in being social, and is downright contemptuous of experimentalists and teaching. Is it fair to call him “something of an experimentalist” because of one thing he did during the Challenger investigation? From looking at his wiki, he was best known for his work in quantum mechanics & electrodynamics and partical physics. Also, he’s in total worship of Professor Proton. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/52 "2016-11-06T19:55:05Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > It’s not clear if he cheated on his first wife. He certainly did on his second and third wives. He was “quite social” in the sense that he didn’t remotely care about being faithful to a wife or girlfriend. And in that he was different than Sheldon also, since he had enormous amounts of sex and Sheldon has only had sex once. And while Feynman was social in the sense that he liked to talk with other people, some people who knew him well considered him kind of a jerk. Which means that he was like Sheldon. I wasn’t aware of the cheating. I do remember stories of him traveling from Los Alamos to visit his wife and sending her letters cut into pieces because she liked to do puzzles. > [@CarnalK](#): > > Is it fair to call him “something of an experimentalist” because of one thing he did during the Challenger investigation? From looking at his wiki, he was best known for his work in quantum mechanics & electrodynamics and partical physics. Not just because of the ice water. In one of his books he describes the chained calculations (done by teams of people) needed during the Manhattan Project, and how (with the right method) they could backtrack and correct errors. And there was his interest in lock picking and safe cracking. He strikes me as someone who was very capable with hands-on type of things, not just theoretical. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/53 "2016-11-06T23:17:27Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > And uuuuuuugh. Penny was such a bitch in this one. ‘How dare you get upset because I was unilaterally getting rid of your stuff?’ (The collectables around the apartment should be talked about, and his _goddamned key-chain_ should be off-limits.) Right, such things have t be agreed upon. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2016, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/54 "2016-11-07T14:13:31Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > The dominatrix outfit made up for it. Yes, you’re right. It certainly did! ---
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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Uh, apparently the sponsors found the Sex Dungeon scene a bit too spicy and had to tone it down. That is, cover up Penny’s top. > > Link: [http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/watch-big-bang-theory-scene-9200321](http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/watch-big-bang-theory-scene-9200321) Caption underneath one of the photos > [@](#): > > Penny and Sheldon recently got married Penny and Sheldon? ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/56 "2016-11-08T15:22:27Z")
Well, this is interesting. [A spin off is in the works.](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/big-bang-theory-sheldon-prequel-series-works-at-cbs-944826) Not sure about this one. Sheldon’s oddities work best in an ensemble. But we’ll get to meet his brother and alcoholic father. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/57 "2016-11-09T23:21:20Z")
I just remembered something else about this episode. Sheldon asks Amy to sing him to sleep with _2001: A Space Odyssey_. Surely Sheldon would have called it _Thus Spake Zarathustra_, or _Also sprach Zarathustra_, or even “Sunrise” from _Also sprach Zarathustra_, or most likely he would have explained all of those titles and which ones were wrong. ---
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> [@ivylass](#): > > Well, this is interesting. [A spin off is in the works.](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/big-bang-theory-sheldon-prequel-series-works-at-cbs-944826) [Existing thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=809998). ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557/59 "2016-11-09T23:31:55Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I just remembered something else about this episode. Sheldon asks Amy to sing him to sleep with _2001: A Space Odyssey_. Surely Sheldon would have called it _Thus Spake Zarathustra_, or _Also sprach Zarathustra_, or even “Sunrise” from _Also sprach Zarathustra_, or most likely he would have explained all of those titles and which ones were wrong. I was thinking the same thing while watching that episode. ---
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> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I just remembered something else about this episode. Sheldon asks Amy to sing him to sleep with _2001: A Space Odyssey_. Surely Sheldon would have called it _Thus Spake Zarathustra_, or _Also sprach Zarathustra_, or even “Sunrise” from _Also sprach Zarathustra_, or most likely he would have explained all of those titles and which ones were wrong. Old Sheldon would. New Model Sheldon wouldn’t. Much. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-episode-7-november-3-2016-the-veracity-elasticity/770557.md?page=4)