# The Big Bang Theory, Season 12, Episode 8 (November 8, 2018) -- "The Consummation Deviation"

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**Created:** [November 8, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-12-episode-8-november-8-2018-the-consummation-deviation/824204 "2018-11-08T18:08:43Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-12-episode-8-november-8-2018-the-consummation-deviation/824204/21 "2018-11-12T18:10:18Z")

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> [@ohiomstr2](#):
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> However I lost interest in the show a couple of seasons back. I found some episodes sans laughtrack and realized the show was really very racist, demeaning and unfunny.

One of the reruns showed Penny upset because Leonard made out with Mandy on the ship and then realized Leonard works with her. The comments that Howard and Raj were making about hot marine biologists made me want to bitch-slap them and run to [Mrs. Davis](https://bigbangtheory.fandom.com/wiki/Janine_Davis) in HR. It amazes me sometimes what Chuck Lorre thinks is humorous.

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-12-episode-8-november-8-2018-the-consummation-deviation/824204/22 "2018-11-12T18:55:52Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> But he wasn’t insecure until Penny told him “Don’t beat yourself up, it’s great now.” Up until that point, he thought he was _awesome_.

The fact that he spent years convincing himself he was awesome, and the extent to which he freaked out when she contradicted his memory, says to me that, yeah, he’s insecure about it.

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-12-episode-8-november-8-2018-the-consummation-deviation/824204/23 "2018-11-14T17:53:18Z")

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So how many past interactions between Penny and Leonard are going to be brought up this season to show that each has a different viewpoint from the other?

I liked the little touch about Teller and being amazed by magic. I do think Teller would be amazed in real life if someone could have pulled the stunt with the whistle and wallet as well as Howard could.

I knew once Teller pulled out the knife where things were going. But it’s still nice to see it done.

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