# The Big Bang Theory, Season 8, Episode 24 (May 7, 2015) -- "The Commitment Determination" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 7, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492 "2015-05-07T16:42:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/21 "2015-05-08T15:27:29Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I disagree. I think it’s an admission to their long-time viewers that they understand the degree of dedication and loyalty of their fan base, and will spare no effort in maintaining continuity. For example, if it was previously established that a character’s favorite breakfast cereal was Froot Loops, it would be an unforgivable lapse to suggest that he now favored Cap’n Crunch’s Crunch Berries. How about this [post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17910231&postcount=25) from an earlier thread on the “The Septum Deviation” episode. [QUOTE=ftg] 1. Leonard snores? Since when? Penny snores, not Leonard. Season 3, episode 14, The Einstein Approximation. "Sheldon: … Oh, by the way, I was watching you sleep for a moment, and I noticed that your snoring seems to be worse when you’re on your back. Penny: Leonard doesn’t snore. Sheldon: No, I wasn’t talking to Leonard. Leonard: Told you." It also isn’t a recent development. Sheldon says it bothered him for the first 5 or 6 years but he’s gotten used to it. So it definitely predates the earlier episode. Writers and continuity. There oughta be a law. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/22 "2015-05-08T15:38:12Z")
I did notice, during the makeout session on the couch, that Sheldon was diving in for more smacking after the whole “Should I watch The Flash” bit. I think that’s a bit of an advance, unless he was trying to fill some quota for kissing before he could stop. ---
**Author:** ![Lorene89095](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@Lorene89095](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lorene89095)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/23 "2015-05-08T15:42:03Z")
I think if Sheldon ever did have sex,he would be the most selfish lover ever… Everything else is all about how it affects him,so sex should be the same,no consideration for his partner. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/24 "2015-05-08T15:44:19Z")
I don’t think so. He would prep on the internet, have plenty of notes, and want to do the activity perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/25 "2015-05-08T15:48:16Z")
AFF has had very little screen time in the last few episodes. I heard that either Mayim’s mother or father passed away recently. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/26 "2015-05-08T16:08:53Z")
It was her father. It’s been mentioned in one of the last two or three TBBT threads on here. ---
**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/27 "2015-05-08T18:20:57Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > I can’t figure out why Emily went into dermatology and not pathology. She makes her own lampshades. ---
**Author:** ![Lare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/53a042/32.png) [@Lare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lare)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/28 "2015-05-08T20:18:27Z")
Not having the app the guys were working on to identify equations a few seasons ago, can anyone tell me what the equation at the bottom of Mr. Lorre’s vanity card was all about? Here’s a link to the card: [http://www.chucklorre.com/index-bbt.php?p=500](http://www.chucklorre.com/index-bbt.php?p=500) I think it might have to do with the difficulty of making 500 cards, but I can’t identify any of the variables. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2015, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/29 "2015-05-09T12:54:46Z")
I think Sheldon’s last lines in the episode should have been: “Well, Gollum; you’re the expert.” Then he should’ve pulled the box out of the desk and then asked, “What should I do with this ring?” ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/30 "2015-05-11T12:56:10Z")
Sorry I’m late. There hasn’t been much time for TV lately, but I finally watched it this morning. WHAT a disappointment!! > [@Infovore](#): > > . . . > I’m still holding out for Bernadette and Howard to get pregnant and employ Stuart as a nanny because neither of them want to stay home with the kid. I agree that they seem to be heading this way, but I also really hope they don’t. It would turn out just like on HIMYM, when Lily’s Dad was caring for the child. That was miserable. > [@silenus](#): > > I agree. I’m usually pretty supportive of the show, but this episode blew chunks. Yep. This. I really hated it. I’d been waiting all season for something, anything to finally happen, and hoping for the finale to move something forward, and then all it did was set up for next year. Not one story line felt in any way satisfying or resolved this entire season. The episodes themselves even feel shorter. I can’t think of anything this season which set up Sheldon to have grown to the point that he is ready to commit. There wasn’t even an indication that he’s begun to enjoy kissing for its own sake, although that seemed to be the case in this one. He hasn’t developed desire, and I certainly hope that Amy will not settle for a life where she doesn’t feel desired. TBBT has a history of not actually showing us the things we want to see most. The plot just picks up again in Autumn, with this or that cliffhanger mysteriously resolved by a throwaway line about something we didn’t get to see. I have ceased to feel any anticipation about it at all. It just seems like the show has devolved into being just one teaser trailer after another. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/31 "2015-05-11T13:03:42Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > I thought for a season finale it was pretty weak, honestly. I don’t mind the cliffhangers re: Penny/Leonard and Amy/Sheldon, but why even bring up Raj breaking up with Emily or Howard and Bernadette asking Stuart to move out if they were just going to wuss out and not do it? > > Emily is getting a little too creepy for _me_, and that’s hard to do because I love creepy stuff. I like her, but I don’t think she’s a good match for Raj. I hope they break up and maybe he’ll get together with Yvette the Vet or something. > > I’m still holding out for Bernadette and Howard to get pregnant and employ Stuart as a nanny because neither of them want to stay home with the kid. I like creepy Emily, but I guess Raj is getting a bit put off by her! ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/32 "2015-05-11T13:04:46Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I think Sheldon’s last lines in the episode should have been: > > “Well, Gollum; you’re the expert.” Then he should’ve pulled the box out of the desk and then asked, “What should I do with this ring?” Hey, that’s brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/33 "2015-05-11T13:15:04Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > The episodes themselves even feel shorter. They are. Not one episode was 22 minutes long, most of them hovered around 19:30 to 20:30, the shortest was 18:53. Don’t ask me how I know this. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/34 "2015-05-11T17:09:29Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > I like creepy Emily, but I guess Raj is getting a bit put off by her! She has a cat playing with mouse quality about her. Sometimes seeming to enjoy skirting the edge of cruelty. On the other hand, being faced with a hopelessly passive partner, maybe she is trying to force him to confront and state his preferences. Is she getting off on the power trip or daring/inciting him to man up and be a real partner? I’m still intrigued, but sliding into intrigue fatigue. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/35 "2015-05-11T17:16:05Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > I can’t think of anything this season which set up Sheldon to have grown to the point that he is ready to commit. There wasn’t even an indication that he’s begun to enjoy kissing for its own sake, although that seemed to be the case in this one. He hasn’t developed desire, and I certainly hope that Amy will not settle for a life where she doesn’t feel desired. This bothered me too. He’s more comfortable with kissing, and he did tell Amy he loved her, but it was in a darling, matter of fact, Sheldonesque way. The engagement ring seemed to come out of left field. I can understand Amy getting sick of the situation, but everything out Sheldon is structured and methodical. The ring seemed out of character. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/36 "2015-05-11T17:20:32Z")
It is too obvious that Amy and Sheldon are not going to break up to make this a cliff-hanger. It’s just audience manipulation. It seems like they have gone as far as they can with the current relationships. No good thing lasts forever, but I am wondering if they might want to end the series next season once and for all. They won’t, but they should. The network execs will milk this thing to death and way beyond. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/37 "2015-05-11T17:28:51Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > This bothered me too. He’s more comfortable with kissing, and he did tell Amy he loved her, but it was in a darling, matter of fact, Sheldonesque way. The engagement ring seemed to come out of left field. I can understand Amy getting sick of the situation, but everything out Sheldon is structured and methodical. The ring seemed out of character. In a way, to me, it didn’t. The one thing Sheldon is really good at is methodical thought–examining a situation from all angles to pick the best course of action. Maybe when he had some time to think about it, he realized that he really _does_ love Amy (in his way–I’m not sure he really understands all the implications) and that she’s likely the best chance he’s got at a relationship. He may have simply decided that if he wants to keep her around, marrying her is the next logical step in the process. Whether this is best for _Amy_, on the other hand, is another matter entirely. I’m not sure it is, unless Sheldon can show more emotional growth than he has in the entire series. I do think it will be interesting if Amy and Sheldon end up getting married and Penny and Leonard don’t, though that could pose a problem if L and P break up (where would Leonard live?) ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/38 "2015-05-11T17:29:34Z")
I would date Emily in a heartbeat–I don’t see her as creepy, just adventurous and spontaneous. She deserves better than Raj. Ditto Amy, and I’m glad she gave Sheldon the boot. As a comic foil, he has his moments but as a person, he’s insufferable and as **MrAtoz** said, would make a terrible husband. I don’t feel bad for him an iota for having his proposal cut short. He’s not remotely ready to give Amy what she needs. I don’t think Leonard was trying to passively-agressively sabotage the wedding. I think his sense of guilt and propriety took over. But Penny’s overreaction was pretty ridiculous. I don’t have a lot of sympathy for Howard and Bernadette at this point, re: the Stewart situation. I like her still but she _also_ deserves better and I’m cheering for their houseguest to stay on as long as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/39 "2015-05-11T17:33:23Z")
> [@MovieMogul](#): > > I don’t have a lot of sympathy for Howard and Bernadette at this point, re: the Stewart situation. I like her still but she _also_ deserves better and I’m cheering for their houseguest to stay on as long as possible. I don’t think Bernadette “deserves” better. She’s every bit as flawed as Howard, and the two of them are perfect for each other, IMO. She’s a dominant personality like Howard’s mother, which he seems to need and thrive under. He has toned down a lot of his skeevy characteristics since he got married, and seems to be a loyal, loving husband (albeit still a man-child, but all the guys are that way to some extent). I too would like to see Stuart remain as their houseguest–it’s weird, I don’t particularly like him as a character, but he plays well opposite the main cast. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492/40 "2015-05-11T17:59:46Z")
I’m still holding on to my pet theory…after Sheldon and Amy’s honeymoon night, he wakes up with all sorts of insights and ideas on physics. I think the psychic said as much to him (when Penny dragged him to see her.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-24-may-7-2015-the-commitment-determination/719492.md?page=3)