# The Big Bang Theory, Season 8, Episode 9 (November 13, 2014) -- "The Septum Deviation"

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**Created:** [November 13, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-8-episode-9-november-13-2014-the-septum-deviation/704538 "2014-11-13T16:47:51Z")\
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> [@magnusblitz](#):
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> Was probably a cost-cutting measure… his parents don’t show up either, and you think that’d be natural for an episode about their separation. Instead, it’s just Raj talking about them second-hand.

No parents, but there was an appearance by Raj’s Brobdingnagian desk.

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I thought Sheldon wasn’t very credible in his concern over a minor elective surgery. One chance in 700,000 doesn’t seem enough to frighten a mind as rational as his.
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> Howie and Bernadette seem to be together just for the sex. Maybe they should move on. Yes, the Raj-Howie couples therapy gag was pretty obvious.

Some families really do thrive on that conflict dynamic though. There was one such down the street from me as a kid; there were times I stopped playing and left their house for fear that serious injuries were in the offing. I have to say that today they are the closest siblings I know. They still fight snipe verbally with each other.

“You just keep talking, I’m gonna chew my leg off.” :D:D

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Oofa, that barrette did Penny’s old-lady haircut no favors in the opening scene.

> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> From a nice article in [EW- ‘Sports Night’: an Oral History](http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/11/06/sports-night-oral-history/):

That quote annoys me. They’re both named Josh.

“Josh came in, but Josh got the part, and I really wanted Josh on the show.”

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Wow, all the ssturm und drang over Penny’s hair. I love it! I think she looks so much prettier this year. Last year she had a really hard, angry look about her, now she comes across to me like a mature version of the original Penny.

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An okay episode dragged down by two things:

1. Leonard snores? Since when? _Penny_ snores, _not_ Leonard.

Season 3, episode 14, _The Einstein Approximation_.

"Sheldon: … Oh, by the way, I was watching you sleep for a moment, and I noticed that your snoring seems to be worse when you’re on your back.

Penny: Leonard doesn’t snore.

Sheldon: No, I wasn’t talking to Leonard.

Leonard: Told you."

It also isn’t a recent development. Sheldon says it bothered him for the first 5 or 6 years but he’s gotten used to it. So it definitely predates the earlier episode.

Writers and continuity. There oughta be a law.

1. Sheldon smacking his nose and having a bandage. C’mon. What a crappy sitcom bit. I expect better from this show.

Best little gag: the running bit about Howard and couple’s therapy.

I know it’s been done. But that is the _ugliest_ woman’s hairstyle ever.

Re: Molina. He is still on Thursday nights as a regular on ABC’s _Scandal_. He’s on the competition now. He apparently got that job after being one _Grey’s Anatomy_ once. (A lot of such folk turn up on other Shondaland productions.) Thursday is his night.

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> I was just thinking, since Laurie Metcalf is now on a different sitcom on the same network (and the same night), I wonder if we’ve seen the last of Mary Cooper.

I caught 10 minutes of that show. She’ll be back. _L_

And since they are on the same network, even if the show does go on, I could still see the occasional Mary Cooper visit.

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> I caught 10 minutes of that show. She’ll be back. _L_
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> And since they are on the same network, even if the show does go on, I could still see the occasional Mary Cooper visit.

Laura Spencer, the actress who plays Raj’s girlfriend Emily also does guest spots on “Bones” on Fox, so I can’t imagine Laurie Metcalf doing guest spots on TBBT being a big deal, especially on the same network.

The only thing I could see making it a problem would be garden-variety timing issues.

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Which can be solved by having the character Skype. They’ve done it before with Sheldon’s mom, when Baranski’s schedule prevented her from filming with the cast.

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Leonard’s mom is played by Christine Baranski, Sheldon’s mom is played by Laurie Metcalf.

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Oops. Thought one, typed the other.

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I can’t really imagine Mary Cooper figuring out how to skype. I don’t know that she owns a computer. But even with her having her own series, I can see her in a recurring role 2-3 times a season. And unless Sheldon has another major breakdown, Mary is probably very occupied being a grandmother.

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If my mother can learn how to Skype, Sheldon’s mom should be able to as well.

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> And unless Sheldon has another major breakdown, Mary is probably very occupied being a grandmother.

A grandmother to who? Did one of her other kids who are ‘dumb as soup’ have a child I didn’t hear about?

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Sheldon’s twin sister gave birth last season. Traumatized Sheldon no end, it did.

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Oh, yeah. I remember that one. The gang kept calling him or Skyping with him or something.

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Laurie Metcalf is also on another crappy TV show: HBO’s **Getting On**. Just started its second season. I have no idea how that got renewed.

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Another continuity break on Leonard snoring: Series 6 Episode 08, _The 43 Peculiarity_.

Sheldon: I’m not saying you don’t have attractive qualities. Your choice of friends is impeccable, you’re a good sleeper, and last but not least, you buy the grapes I like. You’re a real catch compared to some snoring guy with a fridge full of lousy grapes.

This was just _two_ seasons ago. Good grief.

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> Leonard’s mom is played by Christine Baranski, Sheldon’s mom is played by Laurie Metcalf.

Sheldon’s mom played Leonard’s lover in Norm earlier.

Different names, though.

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