# The Big Bang Theory, Season 9, Episode 15 (February 11, 2016) -- "The Valentino Submergence" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 11, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857 "2016-02-11T21:35:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/1 "2016-02-11T21:35:40Z")
I am starting this thread in anticipation of tonight’s episode. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/2 "2016-02-11T21:50:32Z")
I am responding to this thread in anticipation of tonights episode. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/3 "2016-02-11T22:34:49Z")
I’ve been anticipating this thread in anticipation of tonight’s episode. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/4 "2016-02-11T22:44:38Z")
I am subscribing to this thread in anticipation of tonight’s episode. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2016, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/5 "2016-02-11T22:47:24Z")
I am dreading tonight’s episode, so I anticipate a lively discussion in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/6 "2016-02-11T22:49:47Z")
I am exiting this thread in anticipation of tonight’s episode. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/7 "2016-02-12T00:00:51Z")
This is a self-referential sentence which notes that I am participating in this thread as a response to the anticipation of both the thread and the episode. This self-referential sentence serves the purpose of reminding people that self-referential sentences are now in play. ---
**Author:** ![quiltguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e47774/32.png) [@quiltguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quiltguy)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/8 "2016-02-12T00:06:30Z")
I’m anticipating too, but I need a beer more. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/9 "2016-02-12T01:36:51Z")
I have now seen tonight’s episode. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/10 "2016-02-12T02:01:48Z")
Lame for the most part. Emily is lucky to get rid of Raj. The restaurant bit felt phoned in. The rabbit bite was too obviously fake. The shining point was seeing Penny in that little number at the end though it was all too brief (the camera time, not the costume). After a string of good shows, they hit a stinker tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/11 "2016-02-12T02:28:52Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Lame for the most part. Emily is lucky to get rid of Raj. The restaurant bit felt phoned in. The rabbit bite was too obviously fake. The shining point was seeing Penny in that little number at the end though it was all too brief (the camera time, not the costume). After a string of good shows, they hit a stinker tonight. I don’t know; I had a few good laughs out of it. Did anyone notice the flag behind Sheldon during _Fun With Flags_? ---
**Author:** ![Lare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/53a042/32.png) [@Lare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lare)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/12 "2016-02-12T03:50:14Z")
I thought there was a U.S. and the flag of their apartment. Right? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/13 "2016-02-12T04:31:42Z")
Correct. And I’m pretty much done with this show. Unless they give the kid up as a sacrifice to Huitzilopochtli, no good can come of this development. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/14 "2016-02-12T06:28:59Z")
“I just blink a lot; I’m not saying ‘rescue me’ in morse code.” > [@Lare](#): > > I thought there was a U.S. and the flag of their apartment. Right? Yes, a golden lion rampant on a field of azure. ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/15 "2016-02-12T12:10:26Z")
Apart from thinking Valentino is a great name for a rabbit, I didn’t get much from this episode. And I really thing a baby is a terrible idea. How many more seasons are they obligated to do?? ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/16 "2016-02-12T12:31:39Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > “I just blink a lot; I’m not saying ‘rescue me’ in morse code.” > > Yes, a golden lion rampant on a field of azure. To be more precise, “Azure, a lion rampant Or.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/17 "2016-02-12T12:42:14Z")
Possible scenarios: Howard fails to seek treatment for his his rabbit bite, contracts rabies, dies, and leaves Bernie to raise the child alone. The rest of **the gang** pitch in to help with the baby, and the series ends on that note. Amy is shortly revealed to be pregnant too, as a result of her one night with Sheldon. Finally, Penny is found to be carrying Leonard’s child, and the three bond to experience childbirth together. Sheldon is at last forced to find another place to live. And the series ends on that note. Bernie miscarries, and Howard is devastated to the point of disappearing like his father, never to be seen again. And the series ends on that note. Howard’s father learns that Bernie is pregnant with his grandson and reappears in order to be part of his life. Everyone is happy, and the series ends on that note. … Or, Howard tells him to fuck off, and the series ends on that note. ---
**Author:** ![peedin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peedin/32/14095_2.png) [@peedin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peedin)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/18 "2016-02-12T13:46:13Z")
I’m done with the show. Bernadette has stressed she doesn’t like kids and doesn’t want them; now she’s pregnant. Many women choose to have a full life without children. It is not unrealistic that Bernadette would be one of them. Blech. Pandering to stereotypes. BBT is off my DVR. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/19 "2016-02-12T14:14:14Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > To be more precise, “Azure, a lion rampant Or.” 🙂 I may not have used the preferred phrasing. But that does lead me to a question, if we have any heraldry experts here. Sheldon described the apartment’s flag as “a golden lion rampant on a field of azure”, but that sounds more like the terms used to describe a coat-of-arms. Do flags get as much scrutiny as coats-of-arms, are the same terms used to describe them, and would a rampant lion be as likely to appear? I’d expect someone with a podcast about flags to get that sort of thing right. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857/20 "2016-02-12T14:17:53Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Lame for the most part. Emily is lucky to get rid of Raj. The restaurant bit felt phoned in. The rabbit bite was too obviously fake. The shining point was seeing Penny in that little number at the end though it was all too brief (the camera time, not the costume). After a string of good shows, they hit a stinker tonight. I agree! A lackluster episode. I didn’t laugh very much… Penny in the silly-but-sexy costume was the highlight, for sure! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bang-theory-season-9-episode-15-february-11-2016-the-valentino-submergence/745857.md?page=2)