# The Big Bang's Trinity? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 11, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bangs-trinity/609198 "2012-01-11T19:41:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 3
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bangs-trinity/609198/3 "2012-01-11T19:58:51Z")
> [@IntelliQ](#): > > Would it be fair to say there is a similar inescapable truth regarding the Big Bang, that it is spackled together with it’s own trinity of sorts? > > I refer to inflation, dark matter, and dark energy. Erm, no, not according to my understanding. Cosmic inflation (aka big bang) was determined by empirical measurement, via red shifting among other things. Dark Matter/Dark Energy was discovered via other tests. So, at one point, there was the Big Bang model _sans_ Dark matter/energy. > [@IntelliQ](#): > > If I’m not mistaken, those three things can’t be physically detected. Are they not desperately contrived equations to patch together a popular “belief” based on an assertion that is likely never to be proven? You are mistaken, I’m less sure of the latter two, but there were many empirical tests (red shifting being one) that led to the conclusion of the Big Bang. It’s also a consequence of the theory of relativity (IIRC). > [@IntelliQ](#): > > Are there any current advancements regarding the 3 aforementioned theories that place the Big Bang above Christianity? How long do you feel these things will remain on the cusp of becoming tangible? I believe they already are tangible, but to compare them to Christianity seems grossly misguided. Would you have compared Copernican heliocentricism to Christianity? --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-bangs-trinity/609198)._