# The Big Book Of Things That Don't Bleed™--movie/comics/novels Undead **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 21, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323 "2007-11-21T14:42:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/1 "2007-11-21T14:42:09Z")
Hello, Childe Dopers! Today, we are going to write _The Big Book Of Things That Don’t Bleed™_, a compendium of Undead Horrors from movies, fiction, games, etc. There is an essential Rule– it must be definitely Undead Thus, Frankenstein’s Monster, an artificial man, does not count, as he was alive. Neither do demons count. Secondary rule–Multiple listings, from different genres, are fine. So, there can be more than one vampire, zombie, etc. So, I’ll begin– [ol] [li]Dracula (1938, Univeral movie)[/li][li]Simon Garth, the Zombie (Marvel Comics)[/li][/ol] ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/2 "2007-11-21T14:45:55Z")
> [@](#): > > Dracula (1938, Univeral movie) 1.) – nitpick – Dracula was 1931 – [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021814/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021814/) 2.) This is a potentially huge project, and will cease far short of its goal. But it might be diverting for a time. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/3 "2007-11-21T15:08:04Z")
Dead Boy from Simon R. Green’s Nightside series. The Oblivion brothers also from the Nightside series. Ironheart from Simon R. Green’s _Blood and Honor_ Lord Arhys from _The Paladin of Souls_ The Marvel Zombies ( from the series where almost the whole planet gets zombified ), all of them. Som the Dead from _Empire of the East_ ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/4 "2007-11-21T15:38:02Z")
This is going to be fun. **Deadites** (zombie): Demonized humans posessed by forest spirits. – From **The Evil Dead** series of movies **Evil Ash** (zombie): Leader of the Deadites – From **Army of Darkness** ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/5 "2007-11-21T15:46:20Z")
The Demondim from the Thomas Covenant books ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/6 "2007-11-21T16:00:55Z")
I’ll list my personal favorite undead: 1. Henry Fitzroy, the vampire romance novelist, bastard son of Henry VIII, from Tanya Huff’s \*Blood \*books. 2. Jean Claude, the vampire Master of the City from Laurell K. Hamilton’s Anita Blake books. 3. Betsy, Queene of the vampires, from MaryJanice Davidson’s \*Undead \*books. 4. Jack Fleming, the vampire P.I. from P. N. Elrod’s _The Vampire Files_ books. 5. Constantine, the vampire in Robin McKinley’s book _Sunshine_. 6. Angel, the vampire with a soul from _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/7 "2007-11-21T16:20:58Z")
Reg Shoe, late of the Fresh Start club, now a member of the Ank-Morpork City Watch. “Inside every live person is a dead one trying to get out.” ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/8 "2007-11-21T16:34:24Z")
A couple webcomics ones: Order of the Stick: [Xykon](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0013.html) (and various undead minions) Erfworld: Uncroaked [warlords](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/erf0027.html) and [infantry](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/erf0003.html). ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/9 "2007-11-21T18:46:39Z")
old timey undead- Lord Ruthven Sir Francis Varney Carmilla Karnstein ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/10 "2007-11-21T22:02:30Z")
[QUOTE=One And Only Wanderers] The Demondim from the Thomas Covenant books [/QUOTE] I haven’t read the series: are you certain they are Undead, rather than demons? ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/11 "2007-11-21T22:54:50Z")
[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor] Today, we are going to write _The Big Book Of Things That Don’t Bleed™_, a compendium of Undead Horrors from movies, fiction, games, etc. \ Dracula (1938, Univeral movie) [/QUOTE] I know it’s your thread, but I just want to point out that vampires _do_ bleed, sometimes quite profusely. Some things that go bump in the night that _don’t_ bleed: 1.) Mummies: from 1932’s Karloff to meeting Abbot and Costello to chasing Brendan Frasier around 2.) The [skeletons](http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Film/JasonSkeletons.jpg) encountered by Sinbad or Jason and the Argonauts 3.) Dick Cheney 4.) Just about any ghost ---
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I’m a little confused: is this “things that don’t bleed” literally, or do you mean “things that don’t die just because you poke a hole in them”? Scene I’d Like To See: In a monster/ horror movie a tough guy asks someone: TG: “Does it die when you put a large caliber bullet through it?” Somone: “NO!” TG: “Ok, that is a problem…” ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/13 "2007-11-22T05:41:09Z")
Sandman, Ghostrider, and Demon. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/14 "2007-11-22T05:44:31Z")
Does the terminstor bleed, or seep? The old cylons don’t bleed. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/15 "2007-11-22T05:51:36Z")
In the original Star Wars Obi Wan Kenobi doesn’t bleed. He is raptured, nary a drop. Is he undead? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/16 "2007-11-22T06:19:10Z")
[QUOTE=devilsknew] In the original Star Wars Obi Wan Kenobi doesn’t bleed. He is raptured, nary a drop. Is he undead? [/QUOTE] I’d call Force Ghosts a sort of undead. ---
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[QUOTE=Der Trihs] I’d call Force Ghosts a sort of undead. [/QUOTE] Sorry, but this was AFTER his rapture. Prior, he was an Energy Vampire masquerading as a human. (or whatever that species was in that galaxy far, far away…and a heck of a long time ago) And, he framed the Energy Vampire hunter, Darth Vader, who was trying to rid the galaxy of his noxious kind. Today, Darth Vader is considered a villain, believe it or not! Anyway, yeah, Obi-Wan Kenobi does qualify, it’s just that most folk do not realize this because they do not know The Truth. ---
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Nazgul Army of the Dead Barrow Wights Dead Marsh Corpses all from Lord of the Rings ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/19 "2007-11-22T12:37:49Z")
[QUOTE=devilsknew] Sandman, Ghostrider, and Demon. [/QUOTE] None of those are Undead. ---
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[QUOTE=devilsknew] Does the terminstor bleed, or seep? The old cylons don’t bleed. [/QUOTE] Not Undead. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323.md?page=2)