# The Big Book Of Things That Don't Bleed™--movie/comics/novels Undead **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 21, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323 "2007-11-21T14:42:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/21 "2007-11-22T13:08:36Z")
[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor] I haven’t read the series: are you certain they are Undead, rather than demons? [/QUOTE] They are featuring in the Last Chronicles, they are sort of demonic, but they inhabit dead bodies, so you could argue it either way ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/22 "2007-11-22T14:19:45Z")
From George R.R. Martin’s _A Song of Ice and Fire_: “Coldhands”, who is probably Benjen Stark Lord Berik Dondarrion Lady Catelyn Stark The latter two are what I’d call “borderline undead”, namely people who were brought back from the dead… but not all the way. Plus assorted wights. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/23 "2007-11-22T19:40:10Z")
Gee, I’d have thought this topic a hot one… 😉 😛 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/24 "2007-11-22T19:49:47Z")
What about Chuck in Pushing Daisies? She died and Ned bought her back to life. Undead horror does seem a little harsh, though. ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/25 "2007-11-22T21:07:22Z")
Jason after Part 5. Freddy Kruger? Bub. Spike (from Buffy) Jacob Marley’s Ghost. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/26 "2007-11-22T22:13:40Z")
Oh! The T’lan Imass from Erickson’s Malazan Empire series! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/27 "2007-11-22T22:43:53Z")
Nightwalkers from _Touched by the Gods_. Ghosts, from _The Windhover Tapes_. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2007, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/28 "2007-11-23T01:06:21Z")
Vampires, vampsters and Medvamps from _The Case of the Toxic Spell Dump_. Human vampires, vampire hamsters, and vampire Mediterranean fruit flies, respectively. ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2007, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/29 "2007-11-23T02:29:16Z")
Romero zombies (var. “ghouls”)-- the Alpha and Omega of zombism. Before Romero, zombies were merely stoned Haitians. Romero gave to zombies the niche that European vampires used to occupy in folklore before they became gay. O’Bannon zombies. They say “Brains!” Also, if you’re the sort of geek who participates in these discussions, you earn extra points for knowing the full name and manufacturer of the chemical that creates them. Count Orlock from **Nosferatu** : the original answer to that classic question: “What happens if you take Dracula and beat him with the ugly stick until he’s no longer copyrighted?” Strahd von Zarovich from _Ravenloft_: the classic answer to the timeless question: “What if Bram Stoker had been a 19-year-old gamer from Columbus, Ohio in 1983?” Rufus the Indestructible Cat from **Reanimator**. \*“What would a note say? ‘Cat dead; details later’?” \* ---
**Author:** ![Offkenter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f08c70/32.png) [@Offkenter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Offkenter)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2007, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/30 "2007-11-23T05:02:20Z")
[QUOTE=Lumpy] Scene I’d Like To See: In a monster/ horror movie a tough guy asks someone: TG: “Does it die when you put a large caliber bullet through it?” Somone: “NO!” TG: “Ok, that is a problem…” [/QUOTE] Go rent [“Dead Heat”](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094961/) it may be close enough for you. While fighting zombies, Joe Piscopo turns to Treat Williams and says “Remember the good old days, when you shot people and they DIED?” Oh, and pretty much everyone in this movie, including Joe and Treat, qualify for this thread. ---
**Author:** ![I\_m\_No\_Saint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/977dab/32.png) [@I\_m\_No\_Saint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_m_No_Saint)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/31 "2007-11-23T16:19:40Z")
[QUOTE=Terrifel] Strahd von Zarovich from _Ravenloft_: the classic answer to the timeless question: “What if Bram Stoker had been a 19-year-old gamer from Columbus, Ohio in 1983?” - [/QUOTE] Don’t forget Lord Soth. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2007, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/32 "2007-11-23T18:52:54Z")
**Deadman** is dead, of course. Also, any old ghost story assumes that the ghost is a cold, animated corpse. Marley’s Ghost in “A Chistmas Carol” was supposed to be a solid creature; the see-through ghost assumptions came later (probably after films started depicting them that way). ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2007, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/33 "2007-11-23T19:42:44Z")
[QUOTE=RealityChuck] **Deadman** is dead, of course. Also, any old ghost story assumes that the ghost is a cold, animated corpse. Marley’s Ghost in “A Chistmas Carol” was supposed to be a solid creature; the see-through ghost assumptions came later (probably after films started depicting them that way). [/QUOTE] "His colour changed though, when, without a pause, it came on through the heavy door, and passed into the room before his eyes. Upon its coming in, the dying flame leaped up, as though it cried, “I know him; Marley’s Ghost!” and fell again. The same face: the very same. Marley in his pigtail, usual waistcoat, tights and boots; the tassels on the latter bristling, like his pigtail, and his coat-skirts, and the hair upon his head. The chain he drew was clasped about his middle. It was long, and wound about him like a tail; and it was made (for Scrooge observed it closely) of cash-boxes, keys, padlocks, ledgers, deeds, and heavy purses wrought in steel. His body was transparent, so that Scrooge, observing him, and looking through his waistcoat, could see the two buttons on his coat behind." Yep- definitely solid there!" ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2007, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323/34 "2007-11-23T21:58:10Z")
[QUOTE=FriarTed] "His colour changed though, when, without a pause, it came on through the heavy door, and passed into the room before his eyes. Upon its coming in, the dying flame leaped up, as though it cried, “I know him; Marley’s Ghost!” and fell again. The same face: the very same. Marley in his pigtail, usual waistcoat, tights and boots; the tassels on the latter bristling, like his pigtail, and his coat-skirts, and the hair upon his head. The chain he drew was clasped about his middle. It was long, and wound about him like a tail; and it was made (for Scrooge observed it closely) of cash-boxes, keys, padlocks, ledgers, deeds, and heavy purses wrought in steel. His body was transparent, so that Scrooge, observing him, and looking through his waistcoat, could see the two buttons on his coat behind." Yep- definitely solid there!" [/QUOTE] Dead though. Don’t bleed none, neither. He counts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-book-of-things-that-dont-bleed-movie-comics-novels-undead/427323.md?page=1)