# The big news stories on November 22, 1963 - Early Edition

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**Created:** [March 5, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-news-stories-on-november-22-1963-early-edition/830587 "2019-03-05T18:49:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-news-stories-on-november-22-1963-early-edition/830587/1 "2019-03-05T18:49:04Z")

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We all know what the afternoon papers were printing, but this is somewhat interesting. The headline in our local morning paper was the story of a U-2 crash that I’ll go out on a limb and say that most people have never heard of.

Not Francis Gary Powers! That was three years earlier.

Not Rudolph Anderson. That was a year earlier.

On November 20th, a U-2 piloted by one Capt. Joe G. Hyde, crashed into the Gulf of Mexico northwest of Key West, almost certainly having returned from a patrol over or near Cuba. Information on this crash is. . rather thin, considering that it was probably a classified mission. It’s thought that Capt. Hyde probably ejected, since he was not found in the fuselage wreckage (in only 100 feet of water in the Gulf of Mexico), but his body was never [officially] recovered. The cause of the crash, if known, was never publicly disclosed.

The other stories ‘above the fold’ were about a questionable stock deal by Wisconsin Congressman John W. Byrnes, and Soviets messing around in Iran and ‘The Congo’. Also a small note on Page 3 which mentions JFK would meet Sunday afternoon with Vietnam ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge to ‘assess developments in Vietnam,’ a meeting that he would obviously never make.

Other stories of the day:

Below the fold was an article on the death of Robert Stroud, the ‘Birdman of Alcatraz.’

On Page 8, is an article about [Karl Silberbauer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Silberbau), the Nazi captor of Anne Frank’s family.

Agents seized $52K dollars worth of weed from a farm in Greenville GA.

A British stripper was arrested for attempting to buy clothes (on someone else’s credit).

A local woman was charged with smuggling hacksaw blades to her jailed husband. (No indication a cake was involved.)

Going back the the U-2 story, here’s an article about the incident by the Hyde’s son:

[https://sanangelolive.com/.../sky-still-burns-your-memory](https://sanangelolive.com/.../sky-still-burns-your-memory)

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-news-stories-on-november-22-1963-early-edition/830587/2 "2019-03-05T21:07:23Z")

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I’m not sure I’m remembering all the details correctly, but I recall there was a front page newspaper story about a criminal, probably a murderer, who after he was caught, said something to the effect of “at least my name will be on the front page of the newspapers for weeks.” This was on September 10th, 2001.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-news-stories-on-november-22-1963-early-edition/830587/3 "2019-03-05T21:09:20Z")

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> [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#):
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> [https://sanangelolive.com/.../sky-still-burns-your-memory](https://sanangelolive.com/.../sky-still-burns-your-memory)

This URL was truncated at some point and now no longer works.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-news-stories-on-november-22-1963-early-edition/830587/4 "2019-03-05T21:23:39Z")

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I am surprisingly interested to read more about law enforcement discovering a large quantity of weed in what appears to be bumfuck, Georgia. _In 1963._ Who knew?

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-news-stories-on-november-22-1963-early-edition/830587/5 "2019-03-05T21:32:29Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> I am surprisingly interested to read more about law enforcement discovering a large quantity of weed in what appears to be bumfuck, Georgia. _In 1963._ Who knew?

First, weed has been a Public Health Concern since the 1920s. It didn’t magically poof into existence in a cloud of subversion in 1967.

Second, you’re relying on the law enforcement officials to set the price. I’m sure they’d swear that a few feet of green rope was worth a new car if it got them headlines.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-news-stories-on-november-22-1963-early-edition/830587/6 "2019-03-05T21:34:26Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> I am surprisingly interested to read more about law enforcement discovering a large quantity of weed in what appears to be bumfuck, Georgia. _In 1963._ Who knew?

Eh, it’s fairly near [Warm Springs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warm_Springs,_Georgia), which leads me to believe that it may not have been the water that had those magical healing properties…

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-news-stories-on-november-22-1963-early-edition/830587/7 "2019-03-05T21:52:02Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> This URL was truncated at some point and now no longer works.

[Corrected link.](https://sanangelolive.com/news/national/2013-11-20/sky-still-burns-your-memory)

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-big-news-stories-on-november-22-1963-early-edition/830587/8 "2019-03-07T01:34:11Z")

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Robert Stroud…the Birdman of Alcatraz…died Nov 21, 1963.

> **[Robert Stroud](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stroud)**
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> Robert Franklin Stroud (January 28, 1890 – November 21, 1963), known as the "Birdman of Alcatraz", was a convicted murderer, American federal prisoner and author who has been cited as one of the most notorious criminals in the United States. During his time at Leavenworth Penitentiary, he reared and sold birds and became a respected ornithologist. From 1942 to 1959, he was incarcerated at Alcatraz, where regulations did not allow him to keep birds. Stroud was never released from the fede Born...

He once bragged his death would make Front Page headlines.
