# The biggest factor in Casey Anthony's acquittal was... **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 6, 2011, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996 "2011-07-06T04:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/101 "2011-07-06T19:58:58Z")
Chrissy Snow? Man… you’re dating yourself. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/102 "2011-07-06T20:01:17Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > Is there a link? What did the juror say? There’s an alternate juror getting his 15 minutes of fame. [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43651613/ns/us\_news-crime\_and\_courts/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43651613/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/) ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/103 "2011-07-06T20:04:58Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > There’s an alternate juror getting his 15 minutes of fame. > > [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43651613/ns/us\_news-crime\_and\_courts/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43651613/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/) I heard him last night on CNN and was very impressed with how thoughtful he is. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/104 "2011-07-06T20:10:22Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > There’s an alternate juror getting his 15 minutes of fame. > > [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43651613/ns/us\_news-crime\_and\_courts/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43651613/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/) Looks like the smear campaign against the family was successful, since this guy mentioned it as part of his thought process. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/105 "2011-07-06T21:10:43Z")
You know … it was apparent that a ton of information from the early depositions was being excluded from the trial. Some observers have been putting two and two together. [This June 22nd \*Miami Herald \*article has given me pause](http://www.heraldnews.com/news/x1260740970/WENDY-J-MURPHY-Casey-Anthony-trial-an-exercise-in-absurdity): > [@](#): > > Casey knows more than she’s saying about who and why Caylee is dead, which is why she was offered immunity early on. The prosecution squeezed her very hard - even putting the death penalty on the table – but Casey resisted and the prosecution all but conceded defeat last week when they rested their case after presenting a woefully small pile of evidence. > > There’s no doubt Casey neglected her child, lied a lot, and failed to report Caylee missing for a month, but there’s good evidence Casey wasn’t even with Caylee when she died. Caylee was last seen with Casey leaving George and Cindy’s home on June 16, 2008. The public thinks Casey drugged Caylee, put her in her car trunk and taped her mouth shut so she could go out partying. But Casey and her boyfriend rented movies the night of the 16th and stayed home. Videotape from Blockbuster showed that Caylee was nowhere in sight. > > Wherever Caylee was, she didn’t die on the 16th because her remains were found with pink and white shorts and a T-shirt, not the jeans skirt and solid pink top she’d been wearing when she was last seen. > > Whoever killed Caylee apparently had Casey’s car, too, because Casey didn’t have her child or her car on the 17th. A witness told police Casey was driving a borrowed Jeep that day and a neighbor saw Casey’s car, but not Casey, backing into Cindy and George’s garage on the 17th. Why? Did someone take heart-shaped stickers from Casey’s room to bury with the body to implicate Casey in the killing? Casey’s brother Lee testified that Caylee was killed to teach Casey a lesson. Why? > > Casey had her car again on June 22. She told a friend on the 25th that she’d been smelling a dead animal in the car. She abandoned the car in a public parking lot on the 27th and asked a witness to pick her up. All this is additional proof Casey did not kill her child because even the dimmest murderer knows better than to invite a witness to the crime scene and talk openly about the victim’s rotting flesh. > > The prosecution’s case raised more questions than it answered, and it failed address the following important issues: > > 1. Photographs of Caylee seized from the Anthony home have been sealed from public view by court order as “too prejudicial”. The images are apparently so awful, Casey’s attorney made a very big fuss about Cindy Anthony answering deposition questions about the FACT that the photos exist. Why? > > 2. A search warrant executed on Casey’s computer is also under seal. Why? The warrant for the Anthony home is available to the public. Why not the one for the computer? > > 3. In May and June of 08, when Caylee was sleeping with Casey at a friend’s apartment, Casey got a phone call in the middle of the night, in response to which, she roused Caylee from sleep and delivered her to some unknown location. Then she returned to her friend’s apartment and went to sleep. Casey also delivered Caylee to unknown locations on other occasions when she claimed to be bringing Caylee to a “nanny.” Where did she bring her? Why? > > 4. Why is the docket sheet in the case under seal? It would show what motions were filed to “seal” certain evidence. It would also show that the case has been designated a sex crime prosecution – which is important given that a sex crimes detective was involved in the early stages of the investigation. Why? > > 5. Casey searched the internet to learn how to make chloroform; a substance commonly used to sedate children in the making of child porn. The public thinks Casey used chloroform to kill her child, but the drug is popular among parents who pimp their kids because it’s cheap and it causes amnesia so that victims can’t remember being abused. > > Pimping kids is dangerous business and Casey apparently made someone very angry. Maybe she cut out an earlier “business” partner or ripped someone off. A “Zenaida Gonzales” reported her laptop stolen in early June. > > The distortion of truth in this strange case will lead to Casey’s acquittal, which begs the real question: will the prosecution then have the guts, and the political will, to file new charges against Casey for what she REALLY did to that poor little girl. The author of the article, victim advocate Wendy Murphy, [called the acquital nearly a month ago](http://www.patriotledger.com/opinions/x1459481866/WENDY-MURPHY-Why-Casey-Anthony-will-be-acquitted). ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/106 "2011-07-06T21:25:57Z")
I think a lot of cops did some shoddy police work, by design, to create an out for George’s daughter. All the lying and ridiculous defense theories were simply to confuse. Combined they couldn’t miss. Cynical, I know, but that’s what I think. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/107 "2011-07-06T21:31:22Z")
Why does it have to be a conspiracy? Why couldn’t any shoddy police work just be because sometimes, police do shoddy work? ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/108 "2011-07-06T21:31:23Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > I think a lot of cops did some shoddy police work, by design, to create an out for George’s daughter. Also, she was dating a policeman at some point, wasn’t she? EDIT: here it is – from the “Death of Caylee Anthony” wikipedia page: > [@](#): > > More than 6,000 pages of evidence released by the Orange County Sheriff’s Department, including hundreds of instant messages between Casey and ex-boyfriend Tony Rusciano, have been the subject of increased scrutiny by the media for clues and possible motives in the homicide. Rusciano, a rookie Orange County deputy, was fired for lying about his sexual relationship with Casey Anthony. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/109 "2011-07-06T21:40:05Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > So you admit that you are lying, **misquoting,** misleading. Why do you keep lying about people misquoting you when they are directly and exactly quoting you word for word? ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/110 "2011-07-06T23:15:36Z")
> [@AntiCoyote](#): > > I have worked with and been around cons and ex-cons most of my life. Part of the reason for verdicts like this is TV. > > We have come to expect DNA to be the master stroke that solves everything. This simply doesn’t happen as much as we like to think. \ > > I also have seen a lot of people saying she must be found guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, or be 100% convinced of her guilt. This is wrong. It’s only a reasonable doubt. > > Would a reasonable person doubt this? I think any reasonable person would doubt everything her defense said. But the jury was looking not for reasonable doubt but looking for absolute proof. Good post. I agree, I am astounded at the reaction to this, the notion that the lack of DNA evidence, or some other CSI smoking gun, tied the jury’s hands. “How do we even know she was murdered?” Other than the fact that she was dumped in a swamp, duct tape affixed to her head. Maybe it was a heart attack. People were convicted of murder for a long, long time before anyone knew there was such a thing as DNA, before there were the kinds of techniques that could conclusively determine causes of death. That did not, by itself, mean a conviction was not possible. People have been convicted of murder where the body was never found, for Pete’s sake. But in this case, well, now, maybe there’s a perfectly good explanation for how Caylee ended up in that swamp. Yes sir. The standard is not “beyond all doubt.” She is guilty at the point where it is no longer reasonable to presume innocence. This case crossed that line LONG ago. Blameless people don’t wait 31 days to go to the cops and lie about “kidnappers.” I would have had zero problem voting guilty. There is no other plausible (note–I did not say POSSIBLE) explanation than she killed her daughter. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/111 "2011-07-07T00:16:46Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > You know … it was apparent that a ton of information from the early depositions was being excluded from the trial. Some observers have been putting two and two together. [This June 22nd \*Miami Herald \*article has given me pause](http://www.heraldnews.com/news/x1260740970/WENDY-J-MURPHY-Casey-Anthony-trial-an-exercise-in-absurdity): > > The author of the article, victim advocate Wendy Murphy, [called the acquital nearly a month ago](http://www.patriotledger.com/opinions/x1459481866/WENDY-MURPHY-Why-Casey-Anthony-will-be-acquitted). If it was ever proved that Casey was indeed renting Caylee out to pedophiles for kiddie porn shoots, and that’s what really led to her death, I honestly believe that Casey would be murdered in prison (obviously assuming she was found guilty of such a horrific action) within days of being locked up. ## I imagine that many would feel that pimping out your 3 year-old daughter to child pornographers is worse than actually killing them outright. Also, ABC News has letters from Casey, written from jail, saying she wants to get pregnant again soon, or maybe just adopt… ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/112 "2011-07-07T00:57:10Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > I think a lot of cops did some shoddy police work, by design, to create an out for George’s daughter. > > All the lying and ridiculous defense theories were simply to confuse. Combined they couldn’t miss. > > Cynical, I know, but that’s what I think. George was a cop in rural Ohio twenty years ago. He has no Orlando-area police connections. What, the police started to investigate, learned dad had deputied in long-ago East Bumflick, Ohio, and immediately slacked off? > [@bordelond](#): > > You know … it was apparent that a ton of information from the early depositions was being excluded from the trial. Some observers have been putting two and two together. [This June 22nd \*Miami Herald \*article has given me pause](http://www.heraldnews.com/news/x1260740970/WENDY-J-MURPHY-Casey-Anthony-trial-an-exercise-in-absurdity): > The author of the article, victim advocate Wendy Murphy, [called the acquital nearly a month ago](http://www.patriotledger.com/opinions/x1459481866/WENDY-MURPHY-Why-Casey-Anthony-will-be-acquitted). The author of that article is cherry-picking and misstating facts in order to make her thesis. > [@](#): > > There’s no doubt Casey neglected her child, lied a lot, and failed to report Caylee missing for a month, but there’s good evidence Casey wasn’t even with Caylee when she died. Caylee was last seen with Casey leaving George and Cindy’s home on June 16, 2008. The public thinks Casey drugged Caylee, put her in her car trunk and taped her mouth shut so she could go out partying. But Casey and her boyfriend rented movies the night of the 16th and stayed home. Videotape from Blockbuster showed that Caylee was nowhere in sight. How is this evidence that Caylee wasn’t already dead? What’s the difference between getting rid of Caylee in order to party and getting rid of Caylee in order to rent movies with a new boyfriend? Keep in mind this was a new boyfriend who didn’t think the apartment he shared with a group of pot-smoking buddies from college was an appropriate place for Caylee to be at night. > [@](#): > > Wherever Caylee was, she didn’t die on the 16th because her remains were found with pink and white shorts and a T-shirt, not the jeans skirt and solid pink top she’d been wearing when she was last seen. Right, it’s ludicrous to believe that a child’s outfit could be changed within the course of a day. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > Whoever killed Caylee apparently had Casey’s car, too, because Casey didn’t have her child or her car on the 17th. A witness told police Casey was driving a borrowed Jeep that day and a neighbor saw Casey’s car, but not Casey, backing into Cindy and George’s garage on the 17th. Why? The witness could not see who the driver was, so the witness can not say that the driver was definitely not Casey (and then of course that same witness saw Casey at the wheel backing the car into the garage the very next day). And why is it so hard to believe that just because some one was driving one car at 5:00 pm, they couldn’t be driving another at 10 or 2 or 8 on the same day? > [@](#): > > Casey’s brother Lee testified that Caylee was killed to teach Casey a lesson. Why? Casey’s brother testified this because it was what Casey told him. It was part of the big fictional Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapping story. > [@](#): > > Casey had her car again on June 22. No, Casey had her car prior to this, per the witness who saw her backing into her garage on the 18th. If a car is seen backing into a garage three times in four days, and if the driver is identified on one of those times, why assume that there must have been different drivers during the other times? This is a stretch. > [@](#): > > All this is additional proof Casey did not kill her child because even the dimmest murderer knows better than to invite a witness to the crime scene and talk openly about the victim’s rotting flesh. To which I LOL. And then I LOL some more. Her argument is that Casey couldn’t have done something so stupid because nobody could be that stupid? LOL. People are stupid sometimes. Also, Casey didn’t so much as talk about the “victim’s rotting flesh” as try to explain away the stench. > [@](#): > > 1. Photographs of Caylee seized from the Anthony home have been sealed from public view by court order as “too prejudicial”. The images are apparently so awful, Casey’s attorney made a very big fuss about Cindy Anthony answering deposition questions about the FACT that the photos exist. Why? I don’t know what photographs she is talking about here. There was a hubbub about Cindy’s disposition about a photograph of a fully-clothed Caylee crying and stretching her arms up to the photographer, but this picture is most certainly not kiddie porn, as I think the author is trying to insinuate. There were also pictures of Caylee with bruises on her face that were not entered into evidence because, you know, little kids do get lots of bruises. > [@](#): > > 1. In May and June of 08, when Caylee was sleeping with Casey at a friend’s apartment, Casey got a phone call in the middle of the night, in response to which, she roused Caylee from sleep and delivered her to some unknown location. Then she returned to her friend’s apartment and went to sleep. This incident only happened once, not multiple times, as the author is trying to imply with her “May and June”, and it did not quite happen the way the author recounts. Instead, Ricardo Morales said that once he woke up and Caylee was gone. Casey told him that she had a phone call from Cindy and drove Caylee home–home, not to an undisclosed location. > [@](#): > > Casey also delivered Caylee to unknown locations on other occasions when she claimed to be bringing Caylee to a “nanny.” Where did she bring her? Why? Before we get to the why let’s get to the when. When was Caylee at an “unknown location” prior to June of 2008? > [@](#): > > 1. Casey searched the internet to learn how to make chloroform; a substance commonly used to sedate children in the making of child porn. The public thinks Casey used chloroform to kill her child, but the drug is popular among parents who pimp their kids because it’s cheap and it causes amnesia so that victims can’t remember being abused. I would like to know the author’s definitions of popular and common. I find it hard to believe that the use is “popular” when the application is so unpredictable, and when safer, easier drugs are widely available. I just tried Googling to get some information about the use of chloroform for sexual abuse, but aside from the sad story of Karla Holmolka’s sister (who was only supposed to be sedated for the duration of the rape, but ended up dying because duh, chloroform is unreliable), I only found one story about a Swiss man who overcame his victims with a “chloroform-like” substance. > [@](#): > > Pimping kids is dangerous business Yes, I’m sure it is. > [@](#): > > and Casey apparently made someone very angry. No, this is not apparent at all. There is no proof of this. > [@](#): > > Maybe she cut out an earlier “business” partner or ripped someone off. A “Zenaida Gonzales” reported her laptop stolen in early June. This is a real woman who is a different Zenaida Gonzales from the one who filled out the application at Sawgrass, and she did file a police report for a stolen laptop. And is the author really trying to raise the ghost of Zanny the Nanny and implicate this woman in a kiddie porn ring? Really? How is this not slander? ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/113 "2011-07-07T01:08:36Z")
> [@sugaree](#): > > I just tried Googling to get some information about the use of chloroform for sexual abuse, but aside from the sad story of Karla Holmolka’s sister (who was only supposed to be sedated for the duration of the rape, but ended up dying because duh, chloroform is unreliable), Scratch this. Never happened, at least not with chloroform. Bernardo and Holmolka used a combination of Halcion and alcohol to sedate her sister. ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/114 "2011-07-07T01:09:19Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > You know … it was apparent that a ton of information from the early depositions was being excluded from the trial. Some observers have been putting two and two together. [This June 22nd \*Miami Herald \*article has given me pause](http://www.heraldnews.com/news/x1260740970/WENDY-J-MURPHY-Casey-Anthony-trial-an-exercise-in-absurdity): > > The author of the article, victim advocate Wendy Murphy, [called the acquital nearly a month ago](http://www.patriotledger.com/opinions/x1459481866/WENDY-MURPHY-Why-Casey-Anthony-will-be-acquitted). Wendy Murphy has her facts wrong. Casey was driving Tony Lazarro’s Jeep at the end of June through the first week in July, while Tony was in New York. At the time of Caylee’s disappearance, Casey and Casey alone had access to the Sunfire. ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/115 "2011-07-07T01:37:44Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > Wendy Murphy has her facts wrong. Casey was driving Tony Lazarro’s Jeep at the end of June through the first week in July, while Tony was in New York. At the time of Caylee’s disappearance, Casey and Casey alone had access to the Sunfire. **sugaree** addressed most of the problems with Murphy’s piece, but there are other gems in there: > [@](#): > > For example, last week’s testimony included statements from several witnesses that the car Casey was driving at the time Caylee went missing, a car that belonged to Casey’s mother, smelled strongly of a dead/decomposing body. Yes, the car was owned and registered under George and Cindy Anthony, but it was _Casey’s_ car. It has not been demonstrated that anyone other than Casey was driving it at the time. > [@](#): > > On June 27 the car was abandoned, and on the 30th it was brought to a tow yard. Nice use of the passive voice there. The truth is that _Casey_ abandonded the car in that parking lot, and called Tony to come and pick her up. Tony offered to help her with her car, but she waved him off, telling him her father would take care of it. Do you think maybe she didn’t want him going near it? ---
**Author:** ![Bloodless\_Turnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@Bloodless\_Turnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bloodless_Turnip)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/116 "2011-07-07T01:42:40Z")
It’s worth it to go back and look at the videos from George and Cindy’s visits to Casey in prison. And the letters are interesting too. IMHO - Casey was still lying and manipulating, and probably still is. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/117 "2011-07-07T02:58:58Z")
Juror speaks about the guilty verdict: > **[Casey Anthony Juror: 'Sick to Our Stomachs' Over Not Guilty Verdict](https://abcnews.go.com/US/casey_anthony_trial/casey-anthony-juror-jury-sick-stomach-guilty-verdict/story?id=14005609)** > > Jennifer Ford, juror No. 3 in the Casey Anthony murder trial, told ABC News exclusively today that the jury was "sick to our stomachs" after finding the Florida mother not guilty Tuesday of killing her 2-year-old daughter Caylee. "I did not say she... > [@](#): > > Casey Anthony juror Jennifer Ford said that she and the other jurors cried and were “sick to our stomachs” after voting to acquit Casey Anthony of charges that she killed her 2-year-old daughter Caylee. > > “I did not say she was innocent,” said Ford, who had previously only been identified as juror No. 3. “I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be.” ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/118 "2011-07-07T03:55:35Z")
> [@Dogzilla](#): > > Right, but all that really _proves_ is Casey’s a lying sack of shit, of which she’s been convicted. Not calling doesn’t prove she killed her child, either premeditated or accidentally. Enh, it makes her an accessory,by deliberately withholding information that might have saved the kid, had she actually been kidnapped or whatever she was claiming at first. Or it seems like it _should_ make her an accessory. ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/119 "2011-07-07T06:30:27Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Juror speaks about the guilty verdict: > > [Casey Anthony Juror: 'Sick to Our Stomachs' Over Not Guilty Verdict - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey_anthony_trial/casey-anthony-juror-jury-sick-stomach-guilty-verdict/story?id=14005609) > [@](#): > > If you’re going to charge someone with murder, don’t you have to know how they killed someone or why they might have killed someone? No you don’t, you stupid cow. And you certainly don’t need motive or method for aggravated manslaughter/child abuse. > [@](#): > > “The family she comes from and the family that made her what she is had some influence,” she said. “What do they say? You’re as sick as your secrets? I mean, the family seemed to have a little something going on.” I’m trying to figure out why anyone thinks the Anthonys were dysfunctional _before_ Caylee died. Because they didn’t advertise that Casey was pregnant? Hell, that’s a time-honored tradition in the US. Happened with a cousin of mine. She moved out of state ‘for a job’, came back three years later married and with a 2.5yr old kid. No one knew but the mother and father. Sex abuse? I don’t buy it. If Casey was abused since she was 8, she was clearly so upset about it that she…did nothing. Didn’t move out, had no problem leaving her daughter with her diddling dad? No way. I’ve known two women that told me they had been abused by the dad, and both couldn’t move out of the house fast enough. And there is NO WAY either of them would leave their daughters with the dad alone. After watching that video of the juror, I stand by my stance: This was a jury of 12 retards that couldn’t think their way out of a wet paper bag. The defense threw a bunch of shit at the wall and the jury believed that some of it stuck. Disgraceful. ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996/120 "2011-07-07T06:56:48Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Juror speaks about the guilty verdict: > > [Casey Anthony Juror: 'Sick to Our Stomachs' Over Not Guilty Verdict - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey_anthony_trial/casey-anthony-juror-jury-sick-stomach-guilty-verdict/story?id=14005609) I really wish I hadn’t clicked on that link. > [@](#): > > Ford said that she couldn’t make out “logically” the prosecution’s argument because there were too many unanswered questions about how Caylee died, including how Casey Anthony would have used chloroform to smother her 2-year-old daughter, then put her in the trunk of her car without anyone seeing her. Seriously? She “couldn’t make out logically” how this could have happened because no one witnessed it? I weep for the future. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biggest-factor-in-casey-anthonys-acquittal-was/587996.md?page=7)