# The "Birthers" are maggots! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 5, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096 "2009-12-05T15:52:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/41 "2009-12-06T23:37:25Z")
LOL fuck Birthers, I’ve moved on to Climate Truthers. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/42 "2009-12-07T00:10:01Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > On another site I read some Republican groused about this: Britian gets Thatcher and we get _this_? Well, Margaret Thather sounds a lot like Palin nowadays. But of course, Thatcher is aged & suffering from senile dementia. I’d prefer Palin. She’s just as evil a right-winger as Thatcher, but she is much less effective. I prefer right-wingers dumb & ditzy. ---
**Author:** ![sisl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@sisl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisl)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/43 "2009-12-07T00:14:16Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > Perhaps, but it’s unconstitutional to ask it. Why on EARTH should such a “question” be “Unconstitutional” I am new here, and hoping for some fine discussions. Is this a good start? Methinks not! The early life of POTUS O-BOMB-A is shrouded in mystery. He surely was NOT born in a Log Cabin! ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/44 "2009-12-07T00:22:26Z")
> [@sisl](#): > > Why on EARTH should such a “question” be “Unconstitutional” > > I am new here, and hoping for some fine discussions. > > Is this a good start? Methinks not! > > The early life of POTUS O-BOMB-A is shrouded in mystery. > > He surely was NOT born in a Log Cabin! _Points and laughs at the Birther newbie_ It’s about time one of you clowns showed up. Even if the SDMB had any Birthers before, they were far too intelligent to say so out loud. Welcome! ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/45 "2009-12-07T00:24:19Z")
> [@t-bonham@scc.net](#): > > Well, Margaret Thather sounds a lot like Palin nowadays. But of course, Thatcher is aged & suffering from senile dementia. > > I’d prefer Palin. She’s just as evil a right-winger as Thatcher, but she is much less effective. I prefer right-wingers dumb & ditzy. Sarah Palin is hot, Maggie Thatcher never was. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/46 "2009-12-07T00:30:10Z")
> [@Cort](#): > > I think the birthers are fucking great. They’re _hilarious_, and they discredit the Republican base. What’s not to like? I’m with you. Birthers are absolutely _delightful_! You can’t make up that kind of stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/47 "2009-12-07T00:48:43Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I wonder about this, too. Is it just a snarky jab, about how anything the other side does is often called unconstitutional? > > Or is it more educated snark, about how the courts have ruled that no one has the standing to bring this up, in effect calling it unconstitutional to do so? > > Or something else entirely? I believe the court consensus is that it is up to Congress to deal with this as a strictly political issue, and since Congress as accepted Obama as qualified, no one else has standing to raise the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/48 "2009-12-07T01:26:48Z")
> [@sisl](#): > > Why on EARTH should such a “question” be “Unconstitutional” I’m kind of mystified by that, too. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/49 "2009-12-07T01:35:16Z")
As I mentioned above, the simple asking of a candidate for President his circumstances of birth (natural born or not) is not unconstitutional. In fact, the Constitutional requirements for being President include being natural born. Now, refusing to accept the answer marks one as a WONJCT of the “Birther” stripe. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/50 "2009-12-07T01:38:01Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Or it could be taken for what it is … a fucking circus freak show. You’re giving circus freaks a bad name. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/51 "2009-12-07T01:42:07Z")
> [@sisl](#): > > The early life of POTUS O-BOMB-A is shrouded in mystery. 😕 No, it isn’t. It’s an interesting story, but not in any way mysterious. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/52 "2009-12-07T02:50:49Z")
> [@sisl](#): > > The early life of POTUS O-BOMB-A is shrouded in mystery. Only if you’ve been playing with the “Lil’ Bastard Self-Trepanation Kit”. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/53 "2009-12-07T03:15:51Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Only if you’ve been playing with the “Lil’ Bastard Self-Trepanation Kit”. Haha yeah. It’s kind of funny. We know more about Barack Obama’s early childhood than most other Presidents. How many of you knew for instance that George W. Bush had a sister Robin who was like his best friend. Then one day she fell ill and they were separated, and they simply pretended she no longer existed. She died and George was shielded from this experience completely, he was given no real closure on it, they simply stopped talking about her. Barbara Bush considers it the biggest mistake she ever made. Early twentieth century WASP culture was FUCKED UP. I bet you all know that Barry Obama lived in Indonesia with his Mother and his Step-Father, but didn’t know anything about Bush’s sister Robin. > [@](#): > > On a fall day in 1953, George and Barbara Bush drove their green Oldsmobile up the gravel driveway at Sam Houston Elementary School in Midland, Tex., looking for their oldest child. George W. Bush and a friend from second grade were lugging a Victrola from their classroom to the principal’s office when he spotted his parents’ car. He was sure his little sister was in the back seat. > > "He went running back to the teacher and said, ‘I’ve got to go. My mother and father and Robin are here,’ " Barbara Bush, the former first lady, recalled in a recent interview. > > “I run over to the car,” said George W., remembering the same moment, “and there’s no Robin.” > > “That’s when we told him,” his mother said. “In the car.” > > Two days earlier, Pauline Robinson Bush – “Robin” – had died in New York of leukemia, two months shy of her fourth birthday. Her big brother had known she was sick but never dreamed she was dying. “Why didn’t you tell me?” George W Bush repeatedly asked his parents, and for years the question would resonate in the Bush family. > > Only after her death did they disclose to young George W her illness, which had lasted longer than doctors expected it to and had led the Bushes on a frantic quest back East to find a specialist who could treat her. These efforts kept them away from their son for long stretches of time, and he was not present when Robin died, nor at her burial. > > After the service for Robin in Connecticut, Barbara and George H.W. Bush returned to Houston the next day. There was no further attempt at closure or a protracted mourning process, in keeping with upper class mores of the time. > > It can be argued that the apparent abruptness of his little sister’s passing and the lack of any way to deal with it have had a strong impact on George Bush’s later personal development. Barbara Bush has since said the way she handled Robin’s death with her son was one of the few mistakes she made as a parent. > > At age 7, Bush found himself surrounded by bewildering grief. His parents were not even 30 years old, trying to move past a devastating loss while raising George W. and his baby brother Jeb. > > As part of a family famously allergic to engaging in public introspection, Bush is reluctant to talk about the forces that shaped him. He acknowledges, of course, that his sister’s death was profoundly sad for him and his parents, but he also sees the sources of his personality as “more complex than one or two events.” Few would argue with that assessment. > > Yet some close to the Bushes do see the death of his sister as a singular event in George W.'s childhood, helping to define him and how he would deal with the world [http://acapella.harmony-central.com/archive/index.php/t-1806974.html](http://acapella.harmony-central.com/archive/index.php/t-1806974.html) So yeah, I bet you know more about B. Obama’s childhood than you do any other President’s. ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/54 "2009-12-07T03:44:26Z")
Aw, c’mon, if not for the birthers, where else would we get to see a lawyer/real estate agen/dentist claim Obama is using 39 different social security numbers and may also have been born in Equatorial Guinea? This is top quality entertainment! ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/55 "2009-12-07T03:48:47Z")
> [@Patch](#): > > Aw, c’mon, if not for the birthers, where else would we get to see a lawyer/real estate agen/dentist claim Obama is using 39 different social security numbers and may also have been born in Equatorial Guinea? This is top quality entertainment! I’d heard about the 39 SSNs, but does she also say he may have “ALSO” been born in Equatorial Guinea? Is Taitz asserting that he was born in two different places at once? Or that EG is just another possible birthplace that’s MOST DEFINITELY _NOT_ THE U.S.? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/56 "2009-12-07T04:27:35Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Is Taitz asserting that he was born in two different places at once? Nothing is surprising when you’re dealing with the Antichrist. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/57 "2009-12-07T06:01:23Z")
> [@sisl](#): > > The early life of POTUS O-BOMB-A is shrouded in mystery. Only if you are willfully ignorant. > [@sisl](#): > > He surely was NOT born in a Log Cabin! So therefore… he was not born in the United States? Huh? Your amazing powers of logic amaze me! ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/58 "2009-12-07T06:11:52Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > I’d heard about the 39 SSNs, but does she also say he may have “ALSO” been born in Equatorial Guinea? Is Taitz asserting that he was born in two different places at once? Or that EG is just another possible birthplace that’s MOST DEFINITELY _NOT_ THE U.S.? [It’s another place he may have been born.](http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=6627) Under her 'Point 4" of items that need to be investigated. The insanity is too long to quote. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/59 "2009-12-07T09:09:04Z")
> [@Patch](#): > > [It’s another place he may have been born.](http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=6627) Under her 'Point 4" of items that need to be investigated. > > The insanity is too long to quote. I’d click on that link, but reading **sisl’s** post has already made several brain cells pop. I can only afford a few per thread. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096/60 "2009-12-07T12:09:38Z")
> [@t-bonham@scc.net](#): > > Well, Margaret Thather sounds a lot like Palin nowadays. Sarah or Michael? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-birthers-are-maggots/520096.md?page=4)