# The bitter irony that is the Hank Williams, Jr kerfluffle **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 4, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624 "2011-10-04T22:27:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/21 "2011-10-05T20:07:55Z")
> [@Bearflag70](#): > > _Heavy Action_ never gets tired though. > [@mkecane](#): > > ABC never should have dropped the “Dun dun dun duuuunnn” music from MNF in the first place. They should bring that back . . . The name of that song is _[Heavy Action](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIxeOvClzR4)_. Not to be confused with another one of my favorites … _[Round Up](http://youtu.be/ToSIlq4ULJU)_ 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/22 "2011-10-05T20:15:27Z")
I just thought “Guess that sobriety thing wasn’t working for ya” when I saw the clips. Dude was messed up to hell and back. I loved his reference to Obama and Biden as “The Three Stooges”. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/23 "2011-10-05T20:17:05Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Wait, what? I can’t buy a Cuban cigar, yet he’s able to get a hold of their young?😕 [Documentary footage, in its original Spanish](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcDs5OeX3KQ) ---
**Author:** ![C.Montgomery\_Burns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@C.Montgomery\_Burns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C.Montgomery_Burns)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/24 "2011-10-05T23:50:57Z")
Hank Williams, Jr is a complete dumbass. He writes songs celebrating the fact that he embraces and exceeds the very same things that led to his father’s death. And another thing- I heard that he was considering running for office as a Republican. Please, Hank. On behalf of Republicans everywhere, pleaaaase don’t do it (I speak as a conservative who usually votes Republican). ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/25 "2011-10-06T00:20:23Z")
> [@Bearflag70](#): > > What did they do for the MNF intro? Apparently, they [televised the national anthem](http://youtu.be/6mtln0fdz5M) instead of running an intro. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/26 "2011-10-06T01:52:51Z")
> [@mkecane](#): > > ABC never should have dropped the “Dun dun dun duuuunnn” music from MNF in the first place. Just a total nitpicky note that MNF has not aired on ABC since 2005; it’s been on ESPN since the 2006 season (though both ABC and ESPN are now owned by Disney). And, they still use _Heavy Action_ during the course of the game (such as going into commercial breaks); Williams’ song was primarily used at the opening of the show. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/27 "2011-10-06T02:56:04Z")
> [@C.Montgomery\_Burns](#): > > Hank Williams, Jr is a complete dumbass. He writes songs celebrating the fact that he embraces and exceeds the very same things that led to his father’s death. And another thing- I heard that he was considering running for office as a Republican. Please, Hank. On behalf of Republicans everywhere, pleaaaase don’t do it (I speak as a conservative who usually votes Republican). The local sports talk radio deejays were taking calls about this, and a self-identified conservative Republican called in to say he was glad ESPN dropped the song, simply because it was stupid. At last! Something I can agree on with a conservative! Stupid song. And one more vote for canning Faith Hill, too. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/28 "2011-10-06T04:13:01Z")
> [@C.Montgomery\_Burns](#): > > Hank Williams, Jr is a complete dumbass. He writes songs celebrating the fact that he embraces and exceeds the very same things that led to his father’s death. And another thing- I heard that he was considering running for office as a Republican. Please, Hank. On behalf of Republicans everywhere, pleaaaase don’t do it (I speak as a conservative who usually votes Republican). The weird thing is, Hank 3 is cool as hell and smart too. [ > [@Hank William III](#): > > I’m a musician … not a politician. The only person out there worthy of mixing political views and music is Jello Biafra. ]([Hank Williams Jr.’s Son Says Musicians Should Not Talk Politics](http://tasteofcountry.com/hank-williams-jr-son-hank-iii-politics/)) ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/29 "2011-10-06T04:36:33Z")
Walt Disney probably held the average level of anti-semitism in Hollywood for non-Jewish producers at that time. Which might be the same as now. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/30 "2011-10-06T04:49:30Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > And one more vote for canning Faith Hill, too. Nah, she looks a lot better in a catsuit.[sup]\*[/sup] I have not made a strictly apples-to-apples comparison, however I stand by that statement. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/31 "2011-10-06T14:44:24Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Who cares! This gives us all a chance to picture Disney characters in Nazi uniforms! 🙂 Here’s [Donald](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20050818165602/uncyclopedia/images/8/8e/GeneralDonaldDuck.jpg). [Context](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Fuehrer%27s_Face) ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/32 "2011-10-06T16:26:03Z")
Just another person who believes that the First Amendment bestows upon him the obligation to make dumbass comments in public and hide behind the phrase “Freedom of Speech”. Just because one _can_ say whatever comes to mind, Bocephus, doesn’t mean one _should_. Learn to filter. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/33 "2011-10-06T17:13:04Z")
[And ESPN has shitcanned the song.](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/richard_deitsch/10/06/hankwilliamsjr.fired/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a10&eref=sihp) Excuse me, “decided to part ways with Hank Williams Jr.” If this is what it took to get rid of that dumb song, I’m glad he called Obama Hitler and I wish he’d done it a lot sooner. The replacement feature will probably be almost as annoying, but as long as it’s not that stupid-ss song, I’ll smile through it. ---
**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/34 "2011-10-06T18:31:16Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > And one more vote for canning Faith Hill, too. “Canning”? Is that what they kids are calling it these days? ---
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/35 "2011-10-06T20:04:47Z")
> [@markdash](#): > > “Canning”? Is that what they kids are calling it these days? She does have a nice can. ---
**Author:** ![ScatteredFrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@ScatteredFrog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScatteredFrog)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/36 "2011-10-06T20:40:39Z")
My thought: WHO. THE. FRUCK. NEEDS. A. SONG.!!! JUST PLAY THE DAMN GAME!!! I hate those pre-game songs…NBC’s are especially barf-inducing. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/37 "2011-10-06T22:37:10Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Here’s [Donald](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20050818165602/uncyclopedia/images/8/8e/GeneralDonaldDuck.jpg). > > [Context](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Fuehrer%27s_Face) Good start. Now, how would Mickey look with a brush mustache in a khaki corporal’s uniform? Goofy can be Himmler just because I want to see him in the kewlest-of-awl Reichsfuhrer-SS uniform . . . Do you think Disney would be interested in an animated English-language _Downfall_ project? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/38 "2011-10-06T23:17:49Z")
I loved his response. He starts out by bragging that he read ‘hundreds of emails’ (for him, nothing to sneeze at, I’m sure). Then he muffs the old “you didn’t fire me, I quit” line. “Because you fired me, I quit,” doesn’t have the same ring, mastermind. And he winds it up by predictably confusing government suppression of speech with a commercial enterprise deciding to fire an idiot who doesn’t understand how audiences and capitalism work. Nice try, Clarence Darrow. You dad was a true immortal, junior. Too bad you just inherited his drunkeness and not his talent. (Your kid Shelton inherited both - I wonder if that’s why the two of you don’t speak?) Without your dad’s name and money, you’d be singing for tips at some hole in the wall. You’re not some statesman, you’re a washed-up entertainer (when you can keep from getting fired). Oh, and I’m sure you got just as mad when you saw President Bush “jukin’” on the golf course for eight years. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/39 "2011-10-07T13:31:47Z")
To paraphrase Kinky Friedman: No matter how good a Hank Williams Jr. show is, there’s always someone who is going to say to him afterwards “You’re not as good as your daddy.” ---
**Author:** ![psiekier](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psiekier/32/116_2.png) [@psiekier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psiekier)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624/40 "2011-10-07T14:09:13Z")
Do you think they’ll take back [his award](http://www.peteandkellie.com/images/misc/hank_williams_honoured.jpg) (thanks, _The Onion_)? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bitter-irony-that-is-the-hank-williams-jr-kerfluffle/598624.md?page=1)