# The BNP party-political tonight

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 28, 2004, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587 "2004-05-28T22:33:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/1 "2004-05-28T22:33:18Z")

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OK, the usual pseudo-tolerant suppressed-racism bullshit.

Except for the last shot…what the fuck the the Spitfire have to do with anything at all?

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/2 "2004-05-28T22:36:43Z")

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Saw this thread just in time to watch it. Hang on, it’s about to start.

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/3 "2004-05-28T22:41:31Z")

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Oh dear.

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/4 "2004-05-28T22:45:51Z")

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Basic message: Vote for us before the Islamic extremists hack you to pieces.

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/5 "2004-05-28T22:47:32Z")

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Not being a resident of the UK, I can’t see it.

So, what bilge are the (bleep)s up to now?

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/6 "2004-05-28T22:48:12Z")

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Didn’t you love his quoting the Koran? I’m sure all the Islamic scholars will bow down to his wisdom now :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/7 "2004-05-28T22:50:13Z")

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> [@Governor Quinn](#):
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> So, what bilge are the (bleep)s up to now?

The European elections are coming up in a couple of weeks…in Britain, electoral advertising is restricted; any party who fields more than X number of candidates is permitted a certain number of designated 5-minute slots on mainstream channels. This time, the BNP managed to reach that level, and so have reached a new level of “acceptibility”. It’s scary.

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/8 "2004-05-28T22:54:42Z")

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> [@GorillaMan](#):
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> The European elections are coming up in a couple of weeks…in Britain, electoral advertising is restricted; any party who fields more than X number of candidates is permitted a certain number of designated 5-minute slots on mainstream channels. This time, the BNP managed to reach that level, and so have reached a new level of “acceptibility”. It’s scary.

Oh, I know about the EU elections, and about party political broadcasts, for that matter.

I’m asking about content.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/9 "2004-05-28T22:57:02Z")

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You accidently posted this in IMHO-let me move it to the BBQ Pit for you.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/10 "2004-05-28T23:00:01Z")

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> [@Governor Quinn](#):
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> I’m asking about content.

Oh right…just the usual spouting off about ‘radical islam’ and the duty of ‘moderate islam’ to control it…and the “Of _course_ we welcome the immigrants that already are here but don’t let any more in” stuff.

OK, so I had some hope that this wouldn’t be pit-worthy. Still, I want to know what that Spitfire was there for…

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/11 "2004-05-28T23:13:39Z")

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> [@Governor Quinn](#):
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> I’m asking about content.

From my Swiss cheese memory:

Starts out with an Indian bloke telling us that he’ll be voting BNP because they tell the truth about the greatest danger Britain faces today - Islamic extremists.

Then it cuts to a BNP bloke who tells us about his dad being in the RAF during the war. How the small number of Poles and Czechs that lived here then were great, but then the floodgates opened.

More about Islamic extremists, including that quote from the Koran about being not very nice to your neighbour if he isn’t Muslim.

Bogus asylum seekers and Islamic extremists are not nice people and we’ll kick 'em out.

A bit about Enoch Powell being right with regards to his ‘rivers of blood’ malarky.

Back to the Indian bloke who told us that Islamic extremists tore India apart, killing 2 million people. They hacked his father apart in front of him.

Islamic extremists want to turn Britain into an Islamic state.

Islamic extremists ain’t nice people, neither are bogus asylum seekers.

Vote BNP.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/12 "2004-05-29T06:21:43Z")

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> [@GorillaMan](#):
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> Oh right…just the usual spouting off about ‘radical islam’ and the duty of ‘moderate islam’ to control it…and the “Of _course_ we welcome the immigrants that already are here but don’t let any more in” stuff.
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> OK, so I had some hope that this wouldn’t be pit-worthy. Still, I want to know what that Spitfire was there for…

1. How in the name of all that is right and reasonable did the BNP get enough seats to be back on TV? Between Jorg Haider and Jean-Marie Le Pen, you’d think that _any_ right-wing electoral success in Europe would be front page news.

2. Granted, I haven’t been paying all that much attention since I left England and no longer had to worry about the National Front beating me up, but isn’t “of course we welcome the immigrants that are already here” rather a change of tack for the BNP? All I remember is, “don’t let any more in, and send the ones who are already here back”…

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/13 "2004-05-29T09:36:28Z")

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No no no no no. It’s not “send 'em back”, it’s “voluntarily repatriate”.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/14 "2004-05-29T10:07:18Z")

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no, it’s not got to do with enough seats, it’s that they are running enough candidates in enough wards to qualify for the party political broadcast.

the most worrying thing (aside from their bullshit politics) is that they are getting enough money to run all these candidates.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/15 "2004-05-29T10:10:33Z")

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What is BNP?

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**Author:** ![Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aslan_of_Narnia)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/16 "2004-05-29T10:21:58Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> What is BNP?

British Nationalist Party.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/17 "2004-05-29T10:51:30Z")

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Thank you. 🙂

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/18 "2004-05-29T11:06:39Z")

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> [@Really Not All That Bright](#):
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> …isn’t “of course we welcome the immigrants that are already here” rather a change of tack for the BNP? All I remember is, “don’t let any more in, and send the ones who are already here back”…

There’s been a major split between the National Front, who remain true to their ‘ideals’, and the BNP who have embraced much of the language and the doublespeak of mainstream politics, and are having growing successes as a result.

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/19 "2004-05-29T11:29:58Z")

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> [@Aslan of Narnia](#):
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> British Nationalist Party.

Excuse the small correction, but BNP stands for British National Party.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bnp-party-political-tonight/247587/20 "2004-05-29T11:34:34Z")

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> [@Kal](#):
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> Excuse the small correction, but BNP stands for British National Party.

Worthy correction - the ‘British Nationalists’ are another (miniscule) party.

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