# The Book of Boba Fett

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [November 1, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653 "2021-11-01T20:36:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/241 "2022-01-27T22:50:50Z")

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> [@TwoCarrotSnowman](#):
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> That’s kind of my point. I’d have thought they’d have taken a position of “one way or another, you’re leaving the armour here.”

But then they would have to rename his show to _The Man_.

(Now that I think about it, _Grogu and The Man_ has a certain ring to it.)

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/242 "2022-01-27T22:52:29Z")

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> [@TwoCarrotSnowman](#):
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> Thinking about it, I’m surprised the other Mandalorians let Mando keep his armour. Their armour is tightly linked to their identities, and since (in their eyes) Din is no longer a Mandalorian, I’d expect that they’d strip him of his sacred beskar and melt it down to make something nice for the foundlings. This is the way.
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> Or at least, they’d _try_…

Your answer is already there–the armor is _his_. They don’t think he deserves it, but it’s linked to _him_. If they deny that it’s his armor, they’re breaking their own ethics and blaspheming the beskar.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/243 "2022-01-27T23:00:54Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Your answer is already there–the armor is _his_ . They don’t think he deserves it, but it’s linked to _him_ .

Likewise, Boba Fett isn’t a Mandalorian, but he has a right to his beskar because it was his father’s and his father’s before him. Family and lineage runs deeper than creed.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/244 "2022-01-27T23:02:33Z")

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I’m more surprised they let him walk out of there with the Darksaber. Of course, Vizla (is that his name?) couldn’t win it from him. And if you can’t win it in combat, you don’t deserve it.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/245 "2022-01-27T23:16:49Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> Vizla (is that his name?)

Phonetically correct. According to IMDB, the character is Paz Vizsla, and was apparently voiced by Jon Favreau.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/246 "2022-01-27T23:17:36Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> And if you can’t win it in combat, you don’t deserve it.

Even more, if you take possession of it other than from combat, bad things will happen to you, and the Mandalorians.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/247 "2022-01-27T23:20:49Z")

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> [@Paintcharge](#):
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> Another question about the “ringworld.” It looked like one could just sort of…fall out of the undercarriage. Do we presume there’s a forcefield holding everything in?

I was kind of thinking that one of the things that might “fall out” would be “all the air”.

But, you know, a space wizard did it or something.

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Phonetically correct. According to IMDB, the character is Paz Vizsla, and was apparently voiced by Jon Favreau.

[Like the dog](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vizsla).

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/248 "2022-01-27T23:27:48Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I was kind of thinking that one of the things that might “fall out” would be “all the air”.
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> But, you know, a space wizard did it or something.

Indeed. Star Wars is not the place one should go for anything like real-world physics. 😃

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/249 "2022-01-27T23:56:12Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> > [@TwoCarrotSnowman](#):
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> > Thinking about it, I’m surprised the other Mandalorians let Mando keep his armour. Their armour is tightly linked to their identities, and since (in their eyes) Din is no longer a Mandalorian, I’d expect that they’d strip him of his sacred beskar and melt it down to make something nice for the foundlings. This is the way.
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> > Or at least, they’d _try_…
> 
> Your answer is already there–the armor is _his_. They don’t think he deserves it, but it’s linked to _him_. If they deny that it’s his armor, they’re breaking their own ethics and blaspheming the beskar.

“They” who? The giant Mandalorean who just got his ass kicked in a duel for the Darksaber or the smaller one who makes the weapons?

And so what that they told Din Djardin he’s “no longer a Mandalorean” for taking off his helmet? I’d be like “Is this a freakin vote?! I’m still the one with the Darksaber to Rule All of Mandalore,…biatch!”

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/250 "2022-01-28T09:51:22Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Indeed. Star Wars is not the place one should go for anything like real-world physics. 😃

Username/post checks out… 😁

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2022, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/251 "2022-01-28T09:53:10Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I was kind of thinking that one of the things that might “fall out” would be “all the air”.

Force fields that stop air but let everything else pass through are ubiquitous in Star Wars. See [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQB2NXfJev0&t=95s), for instance.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2022, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/252 "2022-01-29T01:13:52Z")

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I’m thinking D’jin is probably rethinking his priorities these days…showed up, lost his spear, got in a fight, AND ain’t a mando anymore.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2022, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/253 "2022-01-29T02:13:05Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> So was I the only one that thought the “gift” for Grogu was shaped like a tiny Grogu head? because I think we might get Grogu in a Mandalorian helmet next episode and I cannot fucking wait.

While the tied up package definitely was intended to look like Grogu’s head, I’m pretty sure the thing inside is actually Grogu-sized Beskar chainmail. The armorer turned the spear into links for chainmail, there was one shot of them being dumped on a table, or something\*.

When you think about it, Beskar chainmail is kind of a no-brainer for Jedi. Light and flexible enough they can still do their Jedi backflips and what not, but still impervious to lightsabers. Grogu might end up being the biggest Jedi badass in history.

- see [the shot here](https://youtu.be/qugBCCKD2Tk?t=7)

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/254 "2022-01-29T02:18:24Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> I’m pretty sure the thing inside is actually Grogu-sized Beskar chainmail.

An even-smaller version of Bilbo’s mithril shirt! 😃

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2022, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/255 "2022-01-29T02:44:21Z")

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Package though awfully small for something using even most of the spear’s material.

D’jin needed a falling out as a loyal subordinate of that specific group of The Way to be able to assume the mantle of leader of all the Mandalorians.

When he no longer fights against the Dark Blade, listens to it and let’s it lead, what happens?

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2022, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/256 "2022-01-29T02:57:44Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> > [@DigitalC](#):
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> > So was I the only one that thought the “gift” for Grogu was shaped like a tiny Grogu head? because I think we might get Grogu in a Mandalorian helmet next episode and I cannot fucking wait.
> 
> While the tied up package definitely was intended to look like Grogu’s head, I’m pretty sure the thing inside is actually Grogu-sized Beskar chainmail. The armorer turned the spear into links for chainmail, there was one shot of them being dumped on a table, or something\*.
> 
> When you think about it, Beskar chainmail is kind of a no-brainer for Jedi. Light and flexible enough they can still do their Jedi backflips and what not, but still impervious to lightsabers. Grogu might end up being the biggest Jedi badass in history.
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> - see [the shot here](https://youtu.be/qugBCCKD2Tk?t=7)

Did Mando take Grogu’s measurements before they parted? Is he expecting Grogu to not grow at all? Because I feel like Beskar armor isn’t something one brings back to the Armorer to “take out a bit”

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2022, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/257 "2022-01-29T03:07:52Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Did Mando take Grogu’s measurements before they parted? Is he expecting Grogu to not grow at all? Because I feel like Beskar armor isn’t something one brings back to the Armorer to “take out a bit”

By its nature, chainmail is somewhat flexible in its sizing. Make it a bit over-sized and he’ll grow into it!

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2022, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/258 "2022-01-29T03:18:18Z")

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> [@Unintentionally\_Blank](#):
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> …showed up, lost his spear, got in a fight, AND ain’t a mando anymore.

Well, he’s not a Child of the Watch anymore, but it seems pretty clear that he still considers himself a Mandalorian (as per his insistence when asked to surrender his weapons). Din has learned that not all Mandalorians are as conservative as the sect that raised him, and seemed pretty skeptical of the Armorer’s insistence that Bo-Katan was a failure.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2022, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/259 "2022-01-29T03:56:21Z")

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just a question does the knighrs of the old republic timeline still apply? because if it does there’s no Mandalore to worry about because the republic blew up the planet 4000 years before the movies

in fact, after winning that battle the 2 generals declared themselves sith and started the sith/Jedi wars and yes they firebomb a loyal sith planet into from space just in the hopes they kill one person …

I wont mention the online games lore …

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2022, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/260 "2022-01-29T04:03:53Z")

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> [@nightshadea](#):
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> just a question does the knighrs of the old republic timeline still apply? because if it does there’s no Mandalore to worry about because the republic blew up the planet 4000 years before the movies
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> in fact, after winning that battle the 2 generals declared themselves sith and started the sith/Jedi wars and yes they firebomb a loyal sith planet into from space just in the hopes they kill one person …

No, KOTOR is Legends now.

Also, you’re thinking of Malachor, not Mandalore. The Battle of Malachor is canon via Rebels and the Darth Maul comics, though the details are left vague and the superweapon didn’t tear the planet apart - instead, the entire population was turned to stone.

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