# The Book of Boba Fett

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [November 1, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653 "2021-11-01T20:36:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/361 "2022-02-03T22:40:10Z")

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Agreed. They are not going to memory hole the sequel trilogy. There’s no money in deleting 3 huge movies in terms of tickets, streaming, merchandise etc. They will keep creating new material, which I’m all about. There is a lot of material out there, from the animated stuff to the novels, not to mention whole new worlds and stories to create. I’m excited for it. I’ve never heard of Heirs of Empire, but I would watch the hell out of it on Disney+ I can tell you that.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/362 "2022-02-03T23:31:50Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> I’ve never heard of Heirs of Empire, but I would watch the hell out of it on Disney+ I can tell you that.

It was a trilogy of novels that came out in the early 90s, and basically kicked off the old Extended Universe. There hadn’t really been any new Star Wars content in years when they came out, and then here were the further adventures of Luke, Han, and Leia, running around the restored Republic, rediscovering lost Jedi lore, finding out more about the Clone Wars (all totally retconned when Phantom Menace came out, but whatever). They were the coolest thing ever when I was fifteen, but I suspect I’d find them unreadable today. Still, lots of solid ideas there, some of which have already been brought back. If you watched _Rebels_, Admiral Thrawn was originally the villain in Heir of the Empire.

If you didn’t watch _Rebels,_ you should - it’s quite good.

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/363 "2022-02-04T00:28:22Z")

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Nice, sounds interesting and hope they do adapt it. I’ve been meaning to watch Rebels at some point. I guess I will after Book of Boba is over.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/364 "2022-02-04T00:57:32Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Next week, Boba reveals he spent the last two episodes making friends with Han Solo and CGI-Solo also joins them in their fight.

You joke, but…

[https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/exclusive-harrison-ford-han-solo.html](https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/exclusive-harrison-ford-han-solo.html)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/365 "2022-02-04T01:04:52Z")

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> [@Pavelb1](#):
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> Well my main wanting to reboot/retcon away the ST is its preferable to me to have a possibility for a happy ending for some of these characters as opposed to the ST writers just taking the toys and breaking them for fun.

Have you read this thread?

> [@Star Wars VII, VIII, IX possibly to be retconned away {Warning Spoilers for other Star Wars movies}](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-wars-vii-viii-ix-possibly-to-be-retconned-away/913809/):
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> [According to a rumor source that apparently has a history of knowing inside info](https://cosmicbook.news/disney-resetting-star-wars-erasing-last-jedi?amp).

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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/366 "2022-02-04T01:08:07Z")

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I havent, but i’ve seen the idea on YT thumbnails. The content creators are super-fringe (You know…Kathleen Kennedy to be fired anyday now!!"…so i didnt watch.

But as i said earlier, any solution involving time travel or fucking relics just makes things worse.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/367 "2022-02-04T01:57:17Z")

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Episode 6 was really, really badly written. The pacing was just dreadful; scenes took too long or were too short, the story was handling too many things, and Luke’s dialogue was just insanely bad.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/368 "2022-02-04T02:22:08Z")

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I 100% noticed Luke’s dialogue. Partly the recording of Mark Hamill. It just doesn’t sound like anything other than random lines recorded in a studio.

The scene in the previous episode with Amy Sedaris also went on forever. Just completely not edited down.

I’m not even hating these episodes, but they felt weird.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/369 "2022-02-04T02:25:02Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I 100% noticed Luke’s dialogue. Partly the recording of Mark Hamill. It just doesn’t sound like anything other than random lines recorded in a studio.

Yeah, it was like they’d found something he recorded for a video game, and just mixed and matched.

I hated the scene where Baby Yoda has to choose between the light saber and the gift. Yeah, yeah, no attachments, fuck you. It makes Luke look like an asshole. He chose to help his friends and he still became a Jedi. It’s a fucking present.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/370 "2022-02-04T02:42:26Z")

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They should have used the ball from Mando’s gearshift instead of the chain mail.

> **[Shogun Assassin -Ball and Sword](https://www.therpf.com/forums/threads/shogun-assassin-ball-and-sword.225654/)**
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> Who doesn't love Shogun Assassin? The americanized version of Lone Wolf and Cub made from pieces of the first two Japanese films. SO weird. SO good.
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> One of the iconic scenes early in the movie involves the assassin presenting his own son with the...

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/371 "2022-02-04T03:15:04Z")

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I don’t tend to take seriously any article whose main source on the inner workings of Disney corporate is a guy named “Doomcock”.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/372 "2022-02-04T04:29:53Z")

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Says a guy named Smapti…

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/373 "2022-02-04T05:40:18Z")

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Well, I wouldn’t trust an article if I were their source for insider info on Disney corporate, either.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/374 "2022-02-04T08:34:02Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> I think what will happen is that he’ll choose the armor, go back to Mando, and then master the Darksaber.

I think Grogu is definitely going to wind up with the Darksaber by the end of the series, with the revelation being that he, not Din Djarin, was the title character all along. Its creator was a Mandalorian who became a Jedi - who better to master it and become the one to reunite the peoples of Mandalore than a Jedi who became a Mandalorian?

> [@DSeid](#):
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> How did the creator of the Dark Saber pull it off, being a Jedi and a Madalorian, if the two are so mutually exclusive?

It hasn’t been established in canon (or in Legends, for that matter). Tarre Viszla lived thousands of years ago at some point prior to the fall of “the Old Republic”, which predated the prequel-era Republic (founded in 1032 BBY) by an also-unestablished period of time. Most of his life appears to be a matter of legend and I think he’s supposed to be something of a King Arthur-type culture hero to the Mandalorians.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/375 "2022-02-04T12:31:59Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I hated the scene where Baby Yoda has to choose between the light saber and the gift. Yeah, yeah, no attachments, fuck you. It makes Luke look like an asshole. He chose to help his friends and he still became a Jedi. It’s a fucking present.

It seems to me that this was a specific intentional callback to that, to Yoda’s mind games with Luke, and telling Luke that leaving training to help his friends was a mistake, with Luke leaving and becoming a Jedi anyway. Just flipping baby Yoda for Luke and Luke into Yoda.

Thank you @Smapti. Another question. How long do Yoda species live that they don’t grow or mature at all as preschool equivalents over 28 years?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/376 "2022-02-04T12:34:19Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> How long do Yoda species live that they don’t grow or mature at all as preschool equivalents over 28 years?

Yoda was at least 900 when he died.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zbqLWDl-1i8/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC6AKKAgwIABABGH8gOigTMA8=&rs=AOn4CLCLHt9nWexMPBspANRuilve5whMzQ "When 900 years old you reach...") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbqLWDl-1i8)

Which was actually a kinda asshole thing to say, wasn’t it? “Hey, you will never live as long as me, so suck it!”

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/377 "2022-02-04T12:45:02Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Another question. How long do Yoda species live that they don’t grow or mature at all as preschool equivalents over 28 years?

That we don’t know. There are only three Yoda-species individuals in canon; Yoda, Grogu, and Yaddle, who was on the Jedi Council alongside Yoda and was about 480 at the time of Episode I and whose subsequent fate is unknown. (In Legends, she died between Episodes I and II.) Legends had a handful of others, but they don’t really provide any other useful information about their life-cycle.

I’m honestly wondering at this point if Grogu even is just a developmentally-normal baby/toddler in terms of his species, or if he’s suffering from some kind of PTSD as the result of surviving Order 66 that’s left him nonverbal and developmentally disabled. He’s certainly more adept at using the Force than Luke ever was in the OT, and he was able to communicate telepathically with Ahsoka well enough to tell her his name, so he might actually be more intelligent than we know but not able to express it to non-Force-sensitives.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/378 "2022-02-04T14:36:07Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> It seems to me that this was a specific intentional callback to that, to Yoda’s mind games with Luke, and telling Luke that leaving training to help his friends was a mistake, with Luke leaving and becoming a Jedi anyway. Just flipping baby Yoda for Luke and Luke into Yoda.

Oh, the callback is very, very obvious, but it was just so clumsy, and the CGI-Hamill did dreadful acting. (I thought the way CGI-Hamill LOOKED was actually pretty good.)

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/379 "2022-02-04T15:17:05Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I’m honestly wondering at this point if Grogu even is just a developmentally-normal baby/toddler in terms of his species, or if he’s suffering from some kind of PTSD as the result of surviving Order 66 that’s left him nonverbal and developmentally disabled.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a big part of it. The flashback of his memory of Order 66 showed the clone troopers advancing on him, just before it ended; I suspect that Grogu used the Force to kill all of them (remember that he also used a Force Choke on Cara Dune at one point).

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/380 "2022-02-04T15:34:06Z")

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Which, if true, would suggest that he is incredibly powerful, if he was able to kill an entire squadron of Clone Troopers when three fully-trained adult Jedi couldn’t. But if it’s not true, how did he escape?

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