# The Book of Boba Fett

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [November 1, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653 "2021-11-01T20:36:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/381 "2022-02-04T15:47:05Z")

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He probably used the Dark side to murder the troopers, which is why the Jedi couldn’t do it.

From Ahsoka’s mind meld back in Chapter 13:

> He was raised at the Jedi Temple on Coruscant. Many Masters trained him over the years. At the end of the Clone Wars when the Empire rose to power, he was hidden. Someone took him from the Temple. Then his memory becomes… dark. He seemed lost. Alone.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/382 "2022-02-04T16:00:42Z")

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Watching the succession of Jedi Masters and students is like a lesson in generational abuse. Luke has the Yoda manipulative strategy down, now he can practice some patented Obi-Wan disingenuity on young Grogu. The one constant in the Star Wars Universe: Jedi Master = Asshole.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/383 "2022-02-04T16:03:10Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> I don’t think anything changed in production, I think this was the plan all along.

I missed that, actually, but now it makes me wish they’d gotten to the Mando stuff sooner.

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/384 "2022-02-04T16:04:39Z")

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One of my biggest takeaways from this episode is that I’m really looking forward to the Ahsoka series.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/385 "2022-02-04T16:16:32Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> One of my biggest takeaways from this episode is that I’m really looking forward to the Ahsoka series. &nbsp;

Me, too. It was clear she and Luke had disagreements. She was resigned to letting him make them.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/386 "2022-02-04T16:43:39Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> Which, if true, would suggest that he is incredibly powerful, if he was able to kill an entire squadron of Clone Troopers when three fully-trained adult Jedi couldn’t. But if it’s not true, how did he escape?

I think the point is that he used the dark side to kill them, not that the others couldn’t.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/387 "2022-02-04T16:59:19Z")

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So Grogu has repressed memories of significant Jedi skills and of using the Dark Side powerfully but is a bit of a Tommy?

[That Boy Needs Therapy!](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3whqx)  
(Video)

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/388 "2022-02-04T17:17:26Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> He probably used the Dark side to murder the troopers, which is why the Jedi couldn’t do it.

I suppose. Although that gets into some fiddly arguments about how killing them with a Force choke is dark side and evil, but killing them with a lightsaber would have been totally legit and cool.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/389 "2022-02-04T17:21:31Z")

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Force choke is really just to terrorize everyone else. If you need to kill a bunch of guys in a hurry, Force aortic rupture is the way to go.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/390 "2022-02-04T17:24:30Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> I suppose. Although that gets into some fiddly arguments about how killing them with a Force choke is dark side and evil, but killing them with a lightsaber would have been totally legit and cool.

It’s not the manner of killing that is the issue, it’s the way the person doing the killing feels. Dark side force powers come from anger fear and hate.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/391 "2022-02-04T17:33:08Z")

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Obi-Wan’s dismemberment fetish was totally light-side.

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**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/392 "2022-02-04T18:02:39Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Dark side force powers come from anger fear and hate.

I can buy that force lightning requires rage and/or hate to use, but “force choke” is just a different application of the generic force telekinesis all force users can do. The whole ‘light side powers’ vs. ‘dark side powers’ thing falls apart if you look at it too closely, but so does a lot of fiction.

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**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/393 "2022-02-04T18:09:28Z")

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Sure, but “Force Choke” isn’t necessarily a Dark Side power. Luke uses it on one of the guards at Jabba’s palace at the beginning of Jedi. Vader using it to murder anyone who pisses him off is Dark Side, but Luke used it to non-lethally bypass the guards so he could rescue his friend.

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**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/394 "2022-02-04T18:14:22Z")

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It’s also a fairly inefficient way of killing people, specially when multiple people are shooting at you, so I assume that is not what he did. The telekinetic neck snapping Eleven does in Stranger Things seems like a much more applicable way of killing people.

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**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/395 "2022-02-04T18:19:43Z")

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I’m betting on mass Force Lightning.

If only for the badass quotient.

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**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/396 "2022-02-04T18:20:39Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> I suppose. Although that gets into some fiddly arguments about how killing them with a Force choke is dark side and evil, but killing them with a lightsaber would have been totally legit and cool.

Plus, you know, they were literally under the influence of mind-controlling computer chips in their brains, so slaughter of the innocent on top of that, I guess?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/397 "2022-02-04T18:26:49Z")

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Grogu would have no way of knowing about that, though, nor would any of the other Jedi. That wouldn’t factor into the moral calculus of their actions.

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**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/398 "2022-02-04T19:34:03Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> I can buy that force lightning requires rage and/or hate to use, but “force choke” is just a different application of the generic force telekinesis all force users can do. The whole ‘light side powers’ vs. ‘dark side powers’ thing falls apart if you look at it too closely, but so does a lot of fiction.

And tying one’s boots is just like garroting someone—simply using a bit of string.

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**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/399 "2022-02-04T19:53:08Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I’m betting an animated version of Timothy Zahn’s Heirs of Empire series would be a big hit on Disney+. I’d sure as fuck watch it.

There was a mention of Grand Admiral Thrawn in an episode of the Mandalorian.

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**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/400 "2022-02-04T19:54:19Z")

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He was the third season villain on _Rebels_. The mention in Mandalorian is a direct follow up to the conclusion of that series.

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