# The Book of Boba Fett

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [November 1, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653 "2021-11-01T20:36:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/481 "2022-02-10T15:03:51Z")

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> [@Stanislaus](#):
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> What they do have is a list of their favourite scenes from the Westerns they watched as film students, and another list of stuff they thought would be cool when they played at Star Wars in the playground, and they have basically built the whole series around mad-libs of those two lists.
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> Which is fine! It made for some cool scenes and some great credit sequence art. And that’s all they were really after, so if that needs the cynical assassin to take pledged neutrality on trust, so be it. If it means we spend one and a half episodes off-world with Mando because they literally don’t have enough cool Star Wars/Western scenes to fill the season, that’s OK. When you set the target up 1 metre away, you’ll definitely hit it.

Isn’t Star Wars just basically Westerns, Akira Kurosawa samurai films and old WWII films set in space? They could have just stuck with Dances With Wolves meets The Magnificent Seven.

Shit, Robert Rodriquez could have just redone one of his films.

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/482 "2022-02-10T15:32:48Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Isn’t Star Wars just basically Westerns, Akira Kurosawa samurai films and old WWII films set in space?

Those were definitely important elements, but it’s not _just_ those. It also references swashbucklers, swords & sorcery, _The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire_, wuxia (almost before wuxia itself really existed), and Joseph Campbell’s Hero’s Journey, that last of which itself draws upon a wide range of mythological sources.

_The Mandalorian_ leaned heavily into the Western elements, and even moreso into the Spaghetti Western elements, with a notable side-trip that leaned heavily into (as in some shots were directly lifted from) the chambara (samurai sword-fighting) elements.

I mentioned upthread that it seemed like maybe Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni wanted the Robert Rodriguez who directed _Desperado_, and instead got the Robert Rodriguez who directed _Spy Kids_.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/483 "2022-02-10T15:37:39Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> I mentioned upthread that it seemed like maybe Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni wanted the Robert Rodriguez who directed _Desperado_ , and instead got the Robert Rodriguez who directed _Spy Kids_ .

I’m starting to suspect that Rodriguez might not be that great a director. He was good at making a C-movie look like a B-movie, and he had some fresh ideas back in the 1990s, but really, how many actually good movies has he made? _Desperado, The Faculty,_ the first _Sin City_… and that’s about it.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/484 "2022-02-10T16:18:04Z")

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I wonder if Rodriguez is not a big Star Wars buff? Maybe he was trying to appeal to the big fans, but not being one he didn’t quite know how.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/485 "2022-02-10T16:59:34Z")

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There was a lot of fun stuff in this series which is all I ask from Star Wars these days. That said, can we all now finally agree that Boba Fett is NOT the coolest SW character?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/486 "2022-02-10T17:16:46Z")

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Boba Fett was cool because he looked awesome and was kind of mysteriously badass (until his ignominious Three Stooges death). Any focus on him was bound to tarnish what was only ever skin-deep to begin with.

But Mandalorian armor is still one of the coolest-looking things in the SW universe, and so in my book he’s still pretty dang cool.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/487 "2022-02-10T17:32:30Z")

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> [@Stanislaus](#):
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> and another list of stuff they thought would be cool when they played at Star Wars in the playground

They got pretty close to the rare Snow Rancor I made a few weeks ago!

[[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/qK8Wtj8.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/7Ijmr9E)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/488 "2022-02-10T17:36:06Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> But Mandalorian armor is still one of the coolest-looking things in the SW universe

Pointing your knee to shoot rockets out of it looks pretty silly, though.

(Maybe Womandalorians can have boob rockets like the girl robot from _Tranzor-Z_.)

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/489 "2022-02-10T17:57:55Z")

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Since first seeing it in _The Empire Strikes Back_, I’ve always thought it looked like something Tony Stark threw together while held captive in Vietnam.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/490 "2022-02-10T18:01:32Z")

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Does Boba’s Rancor have a name? I propose “Chekhov” as in “If a Rancor shows up in the third episode…”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/491 "2022-02-10T18:43:35Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Pointing your knee to shoot rockets out of it looks pretty silly, though.

Admittedly quite silly.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/492 "2022-02-10T18:49:16Z")

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Is it actually established in the movies that there are “Dark” and “Light” force powers? Yes, we only ever see bad guys uses lightning, but is that just a preference stemming from being an asshole? As pointed out, it does appear Luke uses choke once, and it’s pretty easy to imagine how the Jedi mind trick can be used to evil ends.

It’s established in VIDEO GAMES that there is a distinction, but that’s just a game mechanic. It’s a really, really dumb cinematic way of distinguishing between good and evil and takes away from characterization.

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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/493 "2022-02-10T18:53:53Z")

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I was thinking they were doing A Man Called Horse…which as everyone says, is fine. But dig into it more please. SHOW the two Tuskens we liked the most, the woman and the child. Have Boba go off on an Archer style RAMMMMMPAAAAAAGEEEE!! Instead of having Shand single-handedly do the end of the Godfather…have Boba get a more exquisite revenge against those who betrayed him. And have the Pyke guy strung up for the space buzzards. Or buried in the desert up to his neck.

I mean if you’re gonna do a western, do it right.

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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/494 "2022-02-10T18:56:56Z")

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Hold on Tex Arkana…Spy Kids is a good movie.

> [@RickJay](#):
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> Is it actually established in the movies that there are “Dark” and “Light” force powers? Yes, we only ever see bad guys uses lightning, but is that just a preference stemming from being an asshole? As pointed out, it does appear Luke uses choke once, and it’s pretty easy to imagine how the Jedi mind trick can be used to evil ends.

You know the dumbest part of this ‘attachements leads to fear leads to jealousy bullshits’?? The jedi call it ‘attachements’ but refuse to come out and say LOVE leads to the dark side. That ‘love is bad’.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/495 "2022-02-10T19:08:02Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Is it actually established in the movies that there are “Dark” and “Light” force powers?

I think the closest they come is Palpatine’s line in _Revenge of the Sith_:

“The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.”

He doesn’t say exactly what powers he’s talking about, and he might just be gaslighting Anakin in that scene, but it does appear that there are some abilities that you can only use if you’re channeling the Dark Side, or at least, some abilities that you wouldn’t use if you weren’t an utterly evil bastard.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/496 "2022-02-10T19:13:18Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> There was a lot of fun stuff in this series which is all I ask from Star Wars these days. That said, can we all now finally agree that Boba Fett is NOT the coolest SW character?

What’s not cool about transition from “Galaxy’s most ruthless bounty hunter” to the honorable and reasonable…whatever a diamyo is in Mos Espa…like a city alderman or something?

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/497 "2022-02-10T19:18:58Z")

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I’m wondering if they will put Vanth as the lead in [Rangers of the New Republic](https://disneyplusoriginals.disney.com/show/rangers-of-the-new-republic).

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**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/498 "2022-02-10T19:19:17Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I think the closest they come is Palpatine’s line in _Revenge of the Sith_ :
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> “The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.”
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> He doesn’t say exactly what powers he’s talking about, and he might just be gaslighting Anakin in that scene, but it does appear that there are some abilities that you can only use if you’re channeling the Dark Side, or at least, some abilities that you wouldn’t use if you weren’t an utterly evil bastard.

That’s the line I was thinking of, too. Palpatine then goes on to describe the tale of Darth Plagueis, who he says learned how to “create life,” and save those he loved from death.

Anakin, at that point, is suffering from nightmares (almost undoubtedly planted by Palpatine) about Padme’s death, and when he asks Palpatine if he could learn such powers, Palpatine replies, “Not from a Jedi.”

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**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/499 "2022-02-10T19:29:58Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> But Mandalorian armor is still one of the coolest-looking things in the SW universe, and so in my book he’s still pretty dang cool.

…except that seeing Boba Fett standing next to Din kind of highlights that Boba’s armor is actually kind of like, low-rent? It’s like seeing a Fiero next to a Ferrari. Technically, they’re both cars, but one is just shabby looking next to the other.

Never out-cool your “cool” character if you want them to look cool!

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-book-of-boba-fett/953653/500 "2022-02-10T19:31:01Z")

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> [@Pavelb1](#):
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> You know the dumbest part of this ‘attachements leads to fear leads to jealousy bullshits’?? The jedi call it ‘attachements’ but refuse to come out and say LOVE leads to the dark side. That ‘love is bad’.

Lucas just grabbed that from Buddhism.

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