# The Borgs: A Geekie quandary

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 28, 2002, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-borgs-a-geekie-quandary/106157 "2002-04-28T19:43:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2002, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-borgs-a-geekie-quandary/106157/21 "2002-04-29T17:14:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mr. Blue Sky \*  
> \*\*I thought about this after I posted it. In _First Contact_ after the Earth is “Borgified”, Data states that the atmosphere is composed of "high concentrations of methane, carbon monoxide, and flourine… \*\*

Global warming run amok? If so, it would explain why there’s no Borg homeworld - they polluted it so much that it became uninhabitable.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2002, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-borgs-a-geekie-quandary/106157/22 "2002-04-29T17:32:34Z")

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Sorry about that, usual “unable to connect” after the first reply. Sometimes the first one goes through, sometimes it doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2002, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-borgs-a-geekie-quandary/106157/23 "2002-04-29T18:27:21Z")

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The one thing about Voyager i symphasize with was when the Borg Queen got all mad when Janeway did something and destroyed millions of borg. How could a schmuck like Janeway pull off such nonsense? The Borg would have done better if they assimilated the writers.

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**Author:** ![Yondan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/278dde/32.png) [@Yondan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yondan)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2002, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-borgs-a-geekie-quandary/106157/24 "2002-04-29T18:28:19Z")

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> In reality, here’s what would happen in MY version of this Star Trek episode.
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> Captain and the crew would beam onto Borg ship armed with bats and wrenches, or other sharp/blunt objects. In a calm manner, they would go from floor to floor, beaning every borg they find right in the head.

Does anyone else have a certain childhood tune running through their head after eading this?

- Here comes Captain Janeway,  
hopping through the Borg Cube  
scooping up the Borg drones  
and bopping them on the head!\*

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**Author:** ![heptapod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@heptapod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heptapod)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2002, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-borgs-a-geekie-quandary/106157/25 "2002-04-29T18:53:55Z")

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I thought the borg could survive hard vacuum after seeing First Contact and I believe there were one or two episodes of TNG where the borg were outside of a ship and still functional. I wonder why the borg would make their entire ship have a breathable atmosphere when only certain portions, assimilation facilities, would necessitate them. It’d certainly cut down on three to four people beaming in to cause havoc because the borg arrogantly believe a handful of people are insignificant and pose no threat.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2002, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-borgs-a-geekie-quandary/106157/26 "2002-04-29T18:54:28Z")

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…_And the Good Q came down and he said  
“Little Captain Janeway, I don’t want to see you  
Scooping up the Borg Drones, and bopping them on the head”_

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2002, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-borgs-a-geekie-quandary/106157/27 "2002-04-29T20:55:02Z")

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It would have made more sense if the entire Borg Cube were exposed to vacuum.

Trek special effects sequences frequently zoom dramatically from space into the Cubes and into some detail area with people. It never seems to pass through windows or walls when doing this.

However, it would further reinforce the arrogance of Borg thinking nobody is going to come over and wreak havoc. However, the good guys can get this problem by simply equipping the Away Team with biosuits.

My guess is that they wanted to film the actor’s faces and that’s hard when they’re wearing biosuits. The Voyager crew wore biosuits when they visited the Demon class planet, and you could tell they had to make a special effort to do facial close-ups. The rest of the sequences were non-descript people walking around covered by heavy suits.

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