# The Boston-NY rivalry gets taken that extra step into crazyland! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450 "2008-01-29T14:07:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/1 "2008-01-29T14:07:02Z")
[This article talks about how much better Boston fans are](http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1068889&srvc=home&position=0) but it lies-- LIES, I tell you. Where in the hell in the Tri-State area is Neilson finding all these houses worth $200,000 or less? I’m thinking the stalls at the Vince Lombardi rest stop. As to the rest of the article: good for you you non-organic food eating, fancy car driving, Amstel Light non-whiskey drinking New Englanders. Enjoy your Superbowl win. I think the Pats’ll stomp the Giants. Then again, I thought that Tampa, Dallas and Green Bay were gonna stomp the Giants too, so what do I know? ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/2 "2008-01-29T14:18:03Z")
No matter how you slice 'em, they’re still mostly meatheads: urban-Northeast predominantly-male pro-sports fans. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/3 "2008-01-29T14:44:30Z")
[QUOTE=Biggirl] As to the rest of the article: good for you you non-organic food eating, fancy car driving, Amstel Light non-whiskey drinking New Englanders. [/QUOTE] Yep. That describes me to a T. > [@](#): > > Enjoy your Superbowl win. I’m planning to. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/4 "2008-01-29T15:07:00Z")
[QUOTE=tdn] I’m planning to. [/QUOTE] I wouldn’t put too much hope in planning that party for 2008. Celebrations will be a short bit to the south and west. ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/5 "2008-01-29T15:19:08Z")
Since when does living in an expensive house = classy? When I lived in Norwood, MA, (less than 10 miles from Gillette Stadium) I thought my neighbors were all retards for living in houses they couldn’t afford. They never had time to take their kids to the playground, or spend time with their families, etc. It’s an enormous perversion of values. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/6 "2008-01-29T15:24:18Z")
[QUOTE=D\_Odds] I wouldn’t put too much hope in planning that party for 2008. Celebrations will be a short bit to the south and west. [/QUOTE] True, true. I’m a bit northeast of Foxboro Stadium. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/7 "2008-01-29T15:45:55Z")
Man, nearly a week to go and already the media are scraping the bottom of the barrel for stories. ---
**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/8 "2008-01-29T15:53:01Z")
I sincerely hope that the Pats win for a perfect season, but that article was too fucking stupid for words. For the record, though, the Herald has a reputation that even a parakeet will avoid. ---
**Author:** ![Lionne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Lionne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionne)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/9 "2008-01-29T15:55:08Z")
[QUOTE=Plynck] For the record, though, the Herald has a reputation that **even a parakeet will avoid**. [/QUOTE] I have never heard this phrase before…would you explain it for the thinking-challenged? ---
**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/10 "2008-01-29T15:58:00Z")
[QUOTE=Lionne] I have never heard this phrase before…would you explain it for the thinking-challenged? [/QUOTE] Eh, dumb joke. I mean that it isn’t even fit to line a bird cage. ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/11 "2008-01-29T16:04:10Z")
Wow…I have no stake in this rivalry, but that “article” made me scream obscenities at the dumbass writer. Fucking classist bitch. I hope one day she’s so poor she has to drink Bud Light herself. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/12 "2008-01-29T16:10:27Z")
It is most definitely a stupid and elitist article. The irony is that of the two big papers here, that seems to be the one that’s more read by “salt of the earth”-type people. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/13 "2008-01-29T16:25:32Z")
[QUOTE=tdn] True, true. I’m a bit northeast of Foxboro Stadium. [/QUOTE] touché But you’ll need to travel a few more hours south on I-95. Acela may be faster. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/14 "2008-01-29T16:37:03Z")
I had to go to Boston for educatin’ ☹ ---
**Author:** ![THespos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@THespos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/THespos)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/15 "2008-01-29T16:48:18Z")
As long as we’re being stupid and elitist, this is a demographic profile of Boston visitors to [NFL.com](http://NFL.com): ```auto Items 1 to 12 Total Unique Visitors (000) % Composition Unique Visitors Composition Index PV HH Income (US) HHI USD: Less than 15,000 13 4.4 ... HHI US: Under $25K 15 5.0 ... HHI US: Under $60K 90 29.8 73 HHI US: $60K+ 212 70.2 117 HHI US: $75K+ 173 57.2 129 HHI USD: 15,000 - 24,999 2 0.6 ... HHI USD: 25,000 - 39,999 20 6.8 ... HHI USD: 40,000 - 59,999 54 18.0 ... HHI USD: 60,000 - 74,999 40 13.1 74 HHI USD: 75,000 - 99,999 82 27.2 172 HHI USD: 100,000 or more 91 29.9 98 ``` And here’s the same for the NY market: ```auto Items 1 to 12 Total Unique Visitors (000) % Composition Unique Visitors Composition Index PV HH Income (US) HHI USD: Less than 15,000 18 2.7 47 HHI US: Under $25K 26 3.8 45 HHI US: Under $60K 175 26.3 88 HHI US: $60K+ 491 73.7 107 HHI US: $75K+ 430 64.6 110 HHI USD: 15,000 - 24,999 8 1.2 ... HHI USD: 25,000 - 39,999 35 5.2 102 HHI USD: 40,000 - 59,999 114 17.2 97 HHI USD: 60,000 - 74,999 61 9.1 88 HHI USD: 75,000 - 99,999 169 25.4 111 HHI USD: 100,000 or more 261 39.2 109 ``` All numbers are from comScore, December 2007 data and are projected to the Internet population in their respective markets. comScore is a competitor to Nielsen. Notice the index for households with an income over $100K. It’s 109 for NY and 98 for Boston. Also note that this proves nothing, but I had comScore access and 5 minutes to kill. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![lightingtool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/57b2e6/32.png) [@lightingtool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lightingtool)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/16 "2008-01-29T17:17:40Z")
[QUOTE=msmith537] I had to go to Boston for educatin’ ☹ [/QUOTE] Hell, I tried to go to Boston for educatin’, but I’m such a dumb whiskey-drinkin’ Giants fan that I missed and ended up in Vermont. GO GIANTS! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/17 "2008-01-29T17:23:26Z")
[QUOTE= Beware of Doug] No matter how you slice 'em, they’re still mostly meatheads: urban-Northeast predominantly-male pro-sports fans. [/QUOTE] I’m SO glad you pointed this out; how else would I have found out that you’re soooo much better than me? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/18 "2008-01-29T18:03:49Z")
[QUOTE=bufftabby] Wow…I have no stake in this rivalry, but that “article” made me scream obscenities at the dumbass writer. Fucking classist bitch. I hope one day she’s so poor she has to drink Bud Light herself. [/QUOTE] Methinks you got whooshed. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/19 "2008-01-29T18:14:59Z")
(Not in reference to sports) New York vs. New England is like two one-legged men in an ass-kicking contest. ---
**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450/20 "2008-01-29T18:16:18Z")
[QUOTE=Biggirl] Where in the hell in the Tri-State area is Neilson finding all these houses worth $200,000 or less? I’m thinking the stalls at the Vince Lombardi rest stop. [/QUOTE] Maybe the question that was actually asked was whether they owned homes worth at least $200,000. Given the high percentage of renters in the New York area and the tiny percentage of homes worth $200,000 or less, that’s the only thing that makes sense to me. Does anyone have a link to the actual Nielson report? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boston-ny-rivalry-gets-taken-that-extra-step-into-crazyland/435450.md?page=2)