# The Boys S1 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, amazon-prime\ **Created:** [June 17, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656 "2019-06-17T20:58:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/181 "2019-09-06T21:23:48Z")
I dont think so, he is not a good actor. He just blew it. And honestly here I dont think he was being evil. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/182 "2019-09-06T23:02:14Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I dont think so, he is not a good actor. He just blew it. And honestly here I dont think he was being evil. Well letting them all die is certainly evil when he could have saved some of them. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/183 "2019-09-06T23:36:44Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Well letting them all die is certainly evil when he could have saved some of them. No, that’s amoral, since to _him_, he had a good reason. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/184 "2019-09-07T00:15:40Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > the idea that being an asshole is inherently what would happen if you had superpowers. I think it is more the idea that having superpowers is that much more potentially corrupting. But I don’t think it necessarily follow that enormous power automatically = full sociopath. Queen Maeve for example isn’t a sociopath - just beaten down, corrupted and jaded( also a bit scared of that genuine sociopath Homelander ). But she still demonstrably had/has some real concern for normal humans. If she counts as an asshole and I suppose she does, it is as a snarky go-along-to-get-along world-weary asshole. Not a sadistic asshole. If the counter-argument is that she might be if she were as powerful as Homelander, I still don’t really buy it. I do think power corrupts, but people are complex and I think the notion that absolute power corrupts absolutely is too simplistic. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/185 "2019-09-07T03:02:01Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > I think it is more the idea that having superpowers is that much more potentially corrupting. But I don’t think it necessarily follow that enormous power automatically = full sociopath. Queen Maeve for example isn’t a sociopath - just beaten down, corrupted and jaded( also a bit scared of that genuine sociopath Homelander ). But she still demonstrably had/has some real concern for normal humans. If she counts as an asshole and I suppose she does, it is as a snarky go-along-to-get-along world-weary asshole. Not a sadistic asshole. > > If the counter-argument is that she might be if she were as powerful as Homelander, I still don’t really buy it. I do think power corrupts, but people are complex and I think the notion that absolute power corrupts absolutely is too simplistic. And then there’s Starlight, who is pretty darn Good aligned. The Deep is just a dick, but he honestly wants to save the ocean, so I think overall, that gets him maybe a CG alignment. A Train is pretty evil, imho, and Homelander is amoral. Translucent is 100% dick, but I dont see much evil, but maybe i forgot already. This is from the TV series, not the comics, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/186 "2019-09-12T17:28:43Z")
I’m surprised no one has mentioned this, but did anyone else think the season felt very incomplete? I understand that everything nowadays is setting up the inevitable sequel (or second season) but other than the huge moment with Homelander/Billy/The Kid, everything just felt like it’s missing an episode. I loved the show a ton. I’m putting Homelander on Emmy watch because he was so damn scary the entire series! The actor did a fantastic job. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/187 "2019-09-12T17:36:56Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > I’m surprised no one has mentioned this, but did anyone else think the season felt very incomplete? I didn’t. What did you think was missing? ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/188 "2019-09-12T18:59:30Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I didn’t. What did you think was missing? Mostly anything not having to do with Homelander. Where were Frenchie, Mother’s Milk and Female Wolverine (sorry can’t remember her name) running off to? Did they get there? Was Huey going to the same place? Did HE make it there? Did A-Train survive and what story did Starlight tell the cops about why she was there? Why was the Deep Shaving himself? I understand leaving stuff for the next season, but we didn’t get a shot of The Boys in another hotel room or something talking, or A-Train in a hospital bed for us to go “oh shit…now what’s going to happen?”, or Starlight coming back to the empty tower. Nothing (other than Homelander/Billy) was teased for next season to get us intruiged. All the stories just…stopped. In other news, did anyone else notice the fly? I definitely saw him twice and maybe a third time. Hmmmmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/189 "2019-09-12T19:41:43Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Where were Frenchie, Mother’s Milk and Female Wolverine (sorry can’t remember her name) running off to? Did they get there? Was Huey going to the same place? Did HE make it there? Did A-Train survive and what story did Starlight tell the cops about why she was there? Why was the Deep Shaving himself? > > ~snip~ > > Nothing (other than Homelander/Billy) was teased for next season to get us intruiged. All the stories just…stopped. I think the point is all of those _were_ the tease for next season. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/190 "2019-09-12T20:02:55Z")
Aye. Those stories didn’t stop; they’re just waiting until S2 to be told. I mean, every storyline has to be interrupted between seasons, right? That’s just where those were at when time for S1 ran out. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/191 "2019-09-12T20:14:02Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > The Deep is just a dick, but he honestly wants to save the ocean, so I think overall, that gets him maybe a CG alignment. Hell no. Whatever label you want to slap on what he did, he coerced a woman into performing sex on him by threatening her career and reputation if she refused (and possibly even life, given that he was going to accuse her of attacking him). You don’t come out the other side of that with “good” on your report card. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/192 "2019-09-12T20:35:56Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > And then there’s Starlight, who is pretty darn Good aligned. > > The Deep is just a dick, but he honestly wants to save the ocean, so I think overall, that gets him maybe a CG alignment. > > A Train is pretty evil, imho, and Homelander is amoral. > > Translucent is 100% dick, but I dont see much evil, but maybe i forgot already. > > This is from the TV series, not the comics, of course. The Deep sexually harrassed Starlight and it is implied others (possibly including dolphins). Translucent primarily used his powers to stand around naked and invisible mastubating in public. Neither of these guys were in any way “good” on their own. The only good they did was foist on them by Voight. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/193 "2020-01-10T20:56:53Z")
Well…these guys make the Watchmen look like the Justice League. ---
**Author:** ![Scoobysnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Scoobysnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoobysnax)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/194 "2020-01-11T00:03:12Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Well…these guys make the Watchmen look like the Justice League. In my opinion, this show is a much better representation of what people with powers would do in the real world. Would someone with unlimited powers use them altruistically? We can hope so but I would guess not. Doctor Manhattan is probably the best outcome; help his country win a war and then piss off to Mars. Homelander is what we would probably end up with. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2020, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/195 "2020-01-11T03:41:07Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Hell no. Whatever label you want to slap on what he did, he coerced a woman into performing sex on him by threatening her career and reputation if she refused (and possibly even life, given that he was going to accuse her of attacking him). You don’t come out the other side of that with “good” on your report card. In the comics, yes- but in the show it appears he only exposed himself to her. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2020, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/196 "2020-01-11T03:49:03Z")
Her reaction and her disheveled look afterward conveyed far more to me than “he only exposed himself to her.” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2020, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/197 "2020-01-11T06:23:06Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Her reaction and her disheveled look afterward conveyed far more to me than “he only exposed himself to her.” You didnt hear her speech, some epis later? But of course since we didnt see anything, you can draw whatever conclusions you like. They actually played Twister. He lost. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/198 "2020-01-11T14:01:18Z")
> [@Scoobysnax](#): > > In my opinion, this show is a much better representation of what people with powers would do in the real world. Would someone with unlimited powers use them altruistically? We can hope so but I would guess not. Doctor Manhattan is probably the best outcome; help his country win a war and then piss off to Mars. Homelander is what we would probably end up with. In all fairness, none of the Watchmen besides Dr Manhattan have actual “powers”. The show also seems to explore the limitations of those superpowers a bit. Like Homelander and Maeve being unable to save the crippled aircraft. Sure, Homelander was kind of a jerk about it. But it didn’t seem like there was much they could actually do about it. Heck, even “doing good”, Superman destroyed half of Metropolis fighting Zod in Man of Steel. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/199 "2020-01-11T14:31:05Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > You didnt hear her speech, some epis later? > > But of course since we didnt see anything, you can draw whatever conclusions you like. > > They actually played Twister. He lost. Seriously? so she was on her knees throwing up in the bathroom just from seeing his dick? and his “hard to swallow” dig at her next episode wasn’t directly referencing making her blow him? holy shit man this wasn’t even the slightest bit in question, did you seriously need to see the actual blowjob to understand what happened there? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656/200 "2020-01-11T20:42:06Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > In all fairness, none of the Watchmen besides Dr Manhattan have actual “powers”. > > The show also seems to explore the limitations of those superpowers a bit. Like Homelander and Maeve being unable to save the crippled aircraft. Sure, Homelander was kind of a jerk about it. But it didn’t seem like there was much they could actually do about it. > > . Umm, Ozymandias can catch bullets. That is indeed a superhuman power. Yep, Maeve just thought they could save a couple kids, that’s about it. So, I dont think Homelander saying “nope” was “Evil” more Amoral. It does show Maeve \*wants \*to do the Right thing but is burnt out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s1/835656.md?page=11)