# The Boys S2 (Open Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, amazon-prime\ **Created:** [December 6, 2019, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446 "2019-12-06T01:10:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/202 "2020-10-13T20:57:00Z")
Can’t get around the fact that The Deep is a self absorbed jerk and rapist. He has no likable qualities. Maeve is much more interesting and far less whiny. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/203 "2020-10-13T21:23:05Z")
True, but Maeve has also compromised herself. While her eventual fate might be a tragedy. The Deep’s is a comedy. That makes me sympathise more with Maeve but be entertained more by the Deep. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/204 "2020-10-13T22:38:55Z")
nm skip it ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/205 "2020-10-14T17:13:26Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Can’t get around the fact that The Deep is a self absorbed jerk and rapist. He has no likable qualities. I actually really like his character, especially in season 2, but I can’t overlook the whole rapist part just because he’s funny now. I wish they hadn’t included that in the first season. Make him a jerk by doing something else. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/206 "2020-10-14T17:20:35Z")
That would have helped a lot. I doubt it was his first time either. (I fixed your broken quote) ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/207 "2020-10-14T17:26:58Z")
The true nature of The Deep was revealed at the beginning. If they want to redeem him it will take a lot more than they’ve done. They’re better off having him betray the good guys in the end. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/208 "2020-10-14T17:37:35Z")
The Deep is a bad person, but that doesn’t mean he’s not fun to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/209 "2020-10-14T17:50:48Z")
That’s my point. We can take pleasure in his constant frustration. I’m not looking for his redemption, just his entertainment value. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/210 "2020-10-15T01:46:17Z")
> [@smilingbandit](#): > > That said, I’m pretty sure she’s dead. All dead. Not mostly dead. _She’s not only nearly dead, she’s really quite sincerely dead._ The showunner said the opposite in an interview with Andy Greenwald on the Watch podcast. He said he wasn’t sure if we’d see her again or not, but that she’s in a secure prison (hopefully more secure than the others we’ve seen, LOL). > [@smilingbandit](#): > > Given the way he was introduced, I assumed he would remain a loathsome guy but actually turns out to be pretty interesting. Yeah, I think we have to chalk up his introduction to “pilot syndrome” (for the same reason I’ve argued Saul on _Breaking Bad_ can’t be held to some of the things he said in his first appearance). If we’re sticklers about it, that was pretty unforgivable, but they have definitely gone in a different direction with his character since then. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > One thing bugged me about Stormfront’s appearance after Ryan gave her the Anakin-on-Mustafar treatment. The _left_ side of her face was cooked. But when she had Becca up against the tree, she was presenting the _right_ side of her head to him. Oops. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/211 "2020-10-15T02:02:44Z")
I have to admit being slightly amused by Stormfront’s annoyance that everybody was being, like, _totally_ uncool about the, like, Nazi stuff and should, like, give it a rest, already. It reminded me of some moments on _Agents of SHIELD_ when a HYDRA member starting getting defensive about their organization’s historical Nazi ties. ---
**Author:** ![smilingbandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@smilingbandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smilingbandit)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/212 "2020-10-15T22:48:43Z")
[quote=“SlackerInc, post:210, topic:844446, full:true”] > [@smilingbandit](#): > > That said, I’m pretty sure she’s dead. All dead. Not mostly dead. _She’s not only nearly dead, she’s really quite sincerely dead._ The showunner said the opposite in an interview with Andy Greenwald on the Watch podcast. He said he wasn’t sure if we’d see her again or not, but that she’s in a secure prison (hopefully more secure than the others we’ve seen, LOL).[/quote] Yeah, I know. Because like three people posted it earlier and _I already responded to it_. Secondly, I may whip up a post about how much I loathe that kind of storytelling. I should not have to chase after some third party source to find out stuff not in the primary medium. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/213 "2020-10-15T22:52:12Z")
> [@smilingbandit](#): > > Yeah, I know. Because like three people posted it earlier and _I already responded to it_. > > Secondly, I may whip up a post about how much I loathe that kind of storytelling. I should not have to chase after some third party source to find out stuff not in the primary medium. It is in the primary medium. Homelander specifically said she was being held in a secure location. ---
**Author:** ![smilingbandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@smilingbandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smilingbandit)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/214 "2020-10-15T22:58:52Z")
The show gives us good reason to believe that was a lie, however. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/215 "2020-10-15T22:59:45Z")
Upstate farm, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/216 "2020-10-15T23:01:55Z")
> [@smilingbandit](#): > > The show gives us good reason to believe that was a lie, however. Why? She was talking the last we saw her. She wasn’t shown to be bleeding out. We didn’t see her die, and Homelander said she was alive. The behind the scenes comment only verified what we know from actually watching the show. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/217 "2020-10-15T23:03:24Z")
Come on, they obviously left it up in the air in case they ever needed her again. She’s either dead or alive depending entirely on what the plot needs. She’s Schrodingers Nazi. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/218 "2020-10-15T23:05:32Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Upstate farm, eh? She’s romping in the clover with Lamplighter and Popclaw. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/219 "2020-10-15T23:06:25Z")
I hope they say hello to the ducklings my parents gave me for Easter when I was five. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/220 "2020-10-17T16:55:18Z")
You had the important parts, but the internet never rests! Just for the sake of completeness, what Stormfront says is: “It was so beautiful, how the three of us sat there in the shade of an apple tree. Do you remember the day Frederick? Chloe’s arms out of the car window. We found the perfect spot by the river, in the shade of an apple tree. It was the first time Chloe ate fresh apples.” “Was so happy. It was so wonderful. I wanted it to never end.” ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446/222 "2020-10-18T02:24:48Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > I am getting tired of actual Third Reich Nazis as villains. Especially in present time, now that you have to make them into immortal Nazis. Unfortunately we live in an age where too many people need to be reminded that the Nazis were unambiguously the bad guys. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s2-open-spoilers/844446.md?page=12)