# The Boys S3

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, amazon-prime\
**Created:** [April 29, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047 "2021-04-29T17:40:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/243 "2022-07-12T17:39:26Z")

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Their name is kinda limiting. I think it’s weirdly the kind of incongruity found in real life that the characters would refer to from time to time, so maybe they should leave it in. One day Homelander shouts “We’ll get another member when I’m good and ready!” at someone, then burns his head off. After that it won’t come up so often anymore.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/244 "2022-07-12T21:24:35Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Starlight, whose powers have nothing to do with light, or stars.

Huh? I thought that _was_ her power?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/245 "2022-07-13T03:17:26Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> It’s interesting to note that the actor who portrayed Black Noir in the flashback scenes is not the actor who has been under the suit since season 1. It sets up the possibility of some other character picking up the suit and taking his place, especially since the public hasn’t seen Black Noir’s face.

How does the fact that there are two actors set up anything? Like, I don’t think James Earl Jones voicing Vader had plot significance.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/246 "2022-07-13T08:06:25Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> How does the fact that there are two actors set up anything?

Looks like I was right.

According to show runner Eric Kripke:

> **['The Boys' boss says this star will play 'whole new character' in season 4](https://ew.com/tv/black-noir-nathan-mitchell-recast-the-boys-season-4/)**
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> Spoiler warning: Black Noir actor Nathan Mitchell is stepping into a slightly different role in 'The Boys' season 4 after his character death.

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> Come season 4, which will start filming this August, Mitchell will play “a different character who wears the Black Noir suit,” Kripke reveals. “It’s definitely not the last we’ve seen of Black Noir as a hero. It’s just that the guy who was inside [the Noir suit] in season 3, he’s gone. But we have Nathan playing a really interesting and hilarious character who wears the suit next season.”

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/247 "2022-07-13T21:51:05Z")

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You’re saying that having a different actor in the flashback is evidence that the current Noir actor will play a different character that assumes the Noir persona? I don’t see the logic. Hmm, that article did come out a while before you made that speculation.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/248 "2022-07-13T22:55:26Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> I don’t see the logic.

If you want two separate Noirs, and you only need one of them for a couple of flashback episodes, it makes sense to hire a different actor for the flashback episodes and use the actor you’ve been working with for 3 seasons to go forward with the “new” Noir.

Makes sense to me. Otherwise you end up firing the actor who had been playing him just to bring in a new actor.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/249 "2022-07-13T23:15:41Z")

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The assumption is that Noir B is going to show his face a lot?

I guess if your first thought of seeing a young Noir’s face is “aha, this must be so they can keep the original Noir on as a different character!” I applaud your reasoning skills. I’d have just assumed that actor was more charismatic and the original Noir was hired for his physicality.

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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/250 "2022-07-14T03:41:17Z")

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Or maybe Noir 2.0 will be closer to the comics.

They’ve also said we havent seen the last of Maeve. Im not a fan. Lets move some stuff forward.

They could easily just barrel to the end now and adapt the comics. I hope they dont though. They’ve done really well to flesh people out.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/251 "2022-07-14T04:09:25Z")

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I wish Noir had survived to join the Boys because he hates both Soldier Boy and Homelander. His story had just gotten good too. Maybe they can transplant some dead super’s intestines into his body to bring him back like they did with A-Train’s heart.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/252 "2022-07-14T05:23:44Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Maybe they can transplant some dead super’s intestines into his body to bring him back like they did with A-Train’s heart.

I understand Blue Hawk isn’t using his intestines lately.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/253 "2022-07-14T07:56:12Z")

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Just clean out the gravel and Bob(by Singer)’s your uncle (which will be the next big twist).

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/254 "2022-07-14T08:25:51Z")

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You know, with the not at all subtle satirizing that has gone on this season, with Homelander tapping into that conservative cult mentality and Vought News Network playing Fox News, I wonder if the conservative watchers of the show are rooting for Homelander out of habit.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/255 "2022-07-14T09:21:59Z")

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Um, as evidenced in the last episode, Starlight grows stronger in bright light. Hughie specifically turned up all the lights in the studio to make her more powerful. There was even a comment when they were locked in the vault about turning off the breakers so she’d be powerless.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/256 "2022-07-14T13:53:40Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Um, as evidenced in the last episode, Starlight grows stronger in bright light.

It’s supposed to be _electricity_ that she drains, not light, and Huey powered her up by sending more electricity to the room. In season 2 we saw her drain the electricity from security cameras to turn them off.

Why this didn’t really come up during her fight with electricity-wielding Stormfront, I dunno.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/257 "2022-07-14T14:57:46Z")

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So what shoots out of her eyes and hands if it’s not light?

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/258 "2022-07-14T15:10:51Z")

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Light or plasma, according to the wiki. I can’t remember the exact quote, but paraphrased it was “Electricity goes in, light comes out”.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/259 "2022-07-14T19:42:51Z")

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> [@Pavelb1](#):
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> They’ve also said we havent seen the last of Maeve. Im not a fan. Lets move some stuff forward.

When I first saw it, I wished that they had killed off Maeve permanently. But then I read later that they specifically wanted to avoid the [Bury Your Gays](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BuryYourGays) trope.

I get where they are coming from now, but I still think the story would have been better if she had died permanently, trope or not. The “happy ending” just seemed out of place for the series.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/260 "2022-07-14T19:46:29Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> The “happy ending” just seemed out of place for the series.

The series hasn’t ended, though.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/261 "2022-07-14T19:54:20Z")

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They kinda made it seem that Maeve and her gf would go off and live happily ever after.

Good point, though. The series hasn’t ended. There’s still plenty of time for her to die a horrible gruesome death or some such.

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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/262 "2022-07-14T21:30:48Z")

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It just occurred to me…this must be the first adaptation where I havent heard a GGDF of a complaint about race/sex swapping in the last 22 years. And therefore, I haven’t heard any toxic responses\* from creators. I’m sure they have to be out there, but I haven’t seen them. OR maybe all the emphasis is on the political satire and no one spent any animosity points on sex/race swapping.

By the way, if anyone thinks the creators are too heavy-handed in slamming The Right…

Neumann is supposed to be based on AOC? uhhh…

Homelander is Trump? Well the creators made me sympathize with their Trump stand-in. Especially when they showed him as a baby.

And then there’s the take-down of that dumb Girl power scene in Endgame.

\*Warranted or not.

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