# The Boys S3 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, amazon-prime\ **Created:** [April 29, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047 "2021-04-29T17:40:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/143 "2022-07-03T04:04:10Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > He had no issues forcing Becca. I thought it was revealed that it was consensual? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/144 "2022-07-03T04:54:38Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I loved the little surreal cartoon dementia break for Black Noir. Very surprising. > > I’m serious tired of The Deep and he adds nothing. Agreed on both, to some extent. The Deep IS funny; it’s just not well tied in to the rest of the story. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/145 "2022-07-03T05:07:47Z")
Ok so im on episode one (season three)…so obviously Ive skipped to the end here without reading but…is Homelander a metaphor for nuclear weapons?? Cause at various times during the seasons I’ve felt like I’ve been taking crazy pills insofar as very few people seem to take WHAT A MASSIVE THREAT HE IS seriously. Like civvies flipping him off to his face, and such. Keeping him happy and stable should be everyones number one priority. I guess after ep one we see Maeve takes him very seriously but Edgar? Even Starlite?..he’s a walking 1000 megaton antimatter bomb. Starlite should have just said “I’ll think about it”…and gone straight to Homelander and said “NNNNNnnnnnope. You’re the leader, I don’t want it and thats the end of the subject” and walked away. Don’t even give Homelander a chance to think its pity or being condescending. I get the impression that events after ep one will make this moot or address it, I was just wondering why so few take him seriously as a threat, or like nuclear weapons they just ignore it and get by with their lives as best they can Also I was looking forward to the tension of season one and two where everyone knew half of everyone elses secrets and any second Homelander could drop out of the sky and crush someone…I was looking forward to that tension being gone. Like Neumann said, “We’re at peace”. But NOPE. Now I have to worry about someones head exploding out of nowhere. I was telling a friend about how The Boys has this trope of having a quiet moment or silly moment (usually in a car) where you just know some heart-attack inducing shit was about to happen…when literally two seconds later A-Train appeared in the car with Annie and Hughie, I was looking forward to not having stuff like that happen. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/146 "2022-07-03T11:07:04Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > I thought it was revealed that it was consensual? I may well have missed that-sorry. Why would she sleep with him? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/147 "2022-07-03T15:52:52Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Why would she sleep with him? Probably the same reason most people sleep with each other, and in this case the same reason most women wanted to sleep with Homelander. Maeve didn’t seem to recognize his nature until the plane incident. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/148 "2022-07-03T16:03:31Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Maeve didn’t seem to recognize his nature until the plane incident. I think Homelander’s been bugfuck for awhile and she’s just beaten down by it. The airplane probably was just the next level of crazy for him though and she recognized it. > [@TriPolar](#): > > Probably the same reason most people sleep with each other, and in this case the same reason most women wanted to sleep with Homelander. Just slipping away to boink Homelander seems unlikely and she looked happy with Butcher. _Shrug_ Just my interpretation. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/149 "2022-07-03T16:36:35Z")
Quickly googling seems to show that the general interpretation is that Homelander did rape her. I don’t recall the scenes that made me think otherwise. I think Billy being wrong about her being dead along with Homelander’s version of the events. Obviously it could lie, but I remember thinking it was a better twist for Butcher’s crusade to be based on a lie. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/150 "2022-07-03T17:45:55Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Quickly googling seems to show that the general interpretation is that Homelander did rape her. I don’t recall all the detail on how the show framed it. All I recall is a security camera shot of her sneaking into Homelander’s room. In the comics, it’s unquestionably rape but the show has been a bit more subtle. I’ll have to review. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/151 "2022-07-03T18:05:08Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I think Homelander’s been bugfuck for awhile and she’s just beaten down by it. The airplane probably was just the next level of crazy for him though and she recognized it. You could be right, there’s uncertainty here. I got the impression Maeve used to be all in with the supes, that’s why I didn’t see anything unusual there, but perhaps I’ve missed some detail altogether. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/152 "2022-07-04T12:33:10Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I got the impression Maeve used to be all in with the supes, that’s why I didn’t see anything unusual there, but perhaps I’ve missed some detail altogether. I figured she was the Starlite of her generation. Vaught has a whole system set up to recruit, train, promote, and exploit Supes. The lower level supes are generally kept away from the biggest bullshit, and are kept under better control. Occasionally, one like Starlite becomes a breakout in terms of their power and/or popularity, and gets promoted to one of the big teams, with the Seven being the top. And when they get there, they start to see the bullshit for themselves. Some try to ignore it, or justify it as “Well, sure we killed that one guy by accident, but look at how many we saved!” After a few years, they end up either complicit or compliant. They can’t see how just one supe could bring down the whole system, so they just keep their heads down and do the best they can. When we first meet Maeve, it’s on the tail end of probably decades of being in an abusive system, and she’d just going along to get along. Then something happens to shock her out of her rut. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/153 "2022-07-04T13:26:11Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > I figured she was the Starlite of her generation. All that could be, but is there anything in the series that would indicate that to be how events unfolded over time? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/154 "2022-07-04T16:43:18Z")
Maeve did mention to Starlite that she used to be much more optimistic and wanted to make a difference when they first met. It makes me wonder how many of the crimes and such the Seven defeated were setups for publicity by Vought. I know we see at least one with the Deep. I’d guess none of them have ever tussled with a villainous Supe (though I don’t doubt they fight each other often as shown by Soldier Boy). ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/155 "2022-07-04T17:59:15Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > There is a hilarious _Supernatural_ easter egg in 3x07. Hats off for the castor of this season. Nobody noticed that “castor” is Latin for “beaver”… ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/156 "2022-07-05T06:02:32Z")
E3 now. Gawd Starlite is stupid. “Hey Im just gonna use the biggest card I have at the worst time over the most trivial of things.” I wish someone would grow a spine. And Butcher NEEDS someone to call him a monster. So when no one does they enable him. Hey Deep…your wife is a monster. Fuck her. Sooner or later Homelander is just going to burn your face off. So mercy kill the octopus with a fork and tell Homelander you’re done, then fuck off to the Mariana Trench. He can only kill you once. Also someone kill fucking Ashley…what? Oh. Both of them. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/157 "2022-07-05T15:19:29Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I don’t recall all the detail on how the show framed it. All I recall is a security camera shot of her sneaking into Homelander’s room. In the comics, it’s unquestionably rape but the show has been a bit more subtle. I’ll have to review. Season 2, Episode 4, Becca straight up says “He raped me.” ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/158 "2022-07-05T16:22:10Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > Also someone kill fucking Ashley She’s just trying to survive. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/159 "2022-07-05T16:45:47Z")
It took me two seasons before my first reaction when she came on screen wasn’t “what a weird looking woman”. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/160 "2022-07-05T19:43:50Z")
Specially after her role in Jessica Jones. Also with as much blood and gore as this show has the only moments that make me go “holy shit!” are when she rips her hair off. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/161 "2022-07-05T19:55:31Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > …Soldier Boy is an even bigger asshole than Homelander… SB is an asshole, but not in the world destroying way Homelander is. > [@hogarth](#): > > You could argue the other way: Soldier Boy and Homelander both go around killing people they don’t like, but Homelander has a tiny bit of restraint because he cares a little about what other people think about him. Soldier Boy kills retail, HL does it _wholesale._ And I kinda agree with SB getting revenge, they deserve it to some extent. However, too many innocents have gone down too. > [@Pavelb1](#): > > Gawd Starlite is stupid. “Hey Im just gonna use the biggest card I have at the worst time over the most trivial of things.” Saving her life is trivial? ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047/162 "2022-07-05T20:36:29Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Soldier Boy kills retail, HL does it _wholesale._ I don’t know if Homelander has killed more people per episode than Soldier Boy. Maybe if you count letting a plane crash. (There’s probably some scenes I’m forgetting.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-boys-s3/941047.md?page=9)