# The brain is not the ultimate creator **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 2, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902 "2011-09-02T00:23:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/21 "2011-09-02T13:48:12Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > I used to think the brain was the most important organ in the body. Then I thought, “Well, look who’s telling me that”. > > -Stephen Wright, maybe? Emo Philips, possibly ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/22 "2011-09-02T14:17:00Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > Fish don’t know the truth, but not because they can’t see the water - it’s because _they’re fish_. But they’re learning. They have _schools_. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/23 "2011-09-02T14:31:36Z")
Go away. When come back, be sober. ---
**Author:** ![Teufelblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@Teufelblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teufelblitz)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/24 "2011-09-02T14:48:13Z")
“Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here’s Tom with the weather.” -Bill Hicks ---
**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cabin\_Fever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/25 "2011-09-02T18:17:28Z")
OK, that was a successful journey. Some things were clarified, and life was given some much-needed punctuation. Thank you dopers, for being there for me! ps: If we see the brain as transceiver, then we can imagine a TV aerial which we temporarily sabotage. We lose the picture, but we gain an awareness of the underlying cosmic rays. pps: zoid, I loved your poetry! ---
**Author:** ![PacifistPorcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@PacifistPorcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PacifistPorcupine)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/26 "2011-09-02T18:58:17Z")
What if we see the brain as a toaster instead? Or a microwave oven? ---
**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/27 "2011-09-02T20:16:44Z")
> [@Cabin\_Fever](#): > > OK, that was a successful journey. Some things were clarified, and life was given some much-needed punctuation. > > Thank you dopers, for being there for me! So… What were you on? What happened? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/28 "2011-09-02T21:04:03Z")
> [@PacifistPorcupine](#): > > What if we see the brain as a toaster instead? Or a microwave oven? How about a self-toasting toaster? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/29 "2011-09-02T21:05:05Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#): > > You fell asleep and dreamed about boobs? 😃 …with religious piercings. ---
**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cabin\_Fever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/30 "2011-09-03T07:28:44Z")
> [@Steken](#): > > So… What were you on? What happened? If the seat of our feelings and passions (often termed as the astral vehicle) is subdued - we are simply left with the ego and the physical/etheric vehicles. This would be an awful thing to happen! We would be technically inhuman! But for a short time, it can offer certain insights. Religion has a bad name. Spirituality has been blackened by charlatans. So we tend to dismiss both as quackery. It’s important to dismiss or accept on our own terms. Science is the rightful methodology for enquiry into the physical world. So the actual question is: Is the physical world the only one? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/31 "2011-09-03T07:32:09Z")
Apparently not. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/32 "2011-09-03T08:17:38Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I didn’t…zzzzzzzzzzzzzz (+) (+) > > ASCII art successes!-ish! 😃 > [@Hello\_Again](#): > > You fell asleep and dreamed about boobs? 😃 well talk about conservative - his dream boobs wear pasties. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/33 "2011-09-03T09:39:28Z")
Good post/user name combo in the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/34 "2011-09-03T09:46:43Z")
> [@Cabin\_Fever](#): > > Is the physical world the only one? No. There is The Wired. ---
**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cabin\_Fever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/35 "2012-09-15T23:46:29Z")
So what was learned from all this? We can only see what light reveals. We cannot see light itself. ---
**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cabin\_Fever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/36 "2012-09-16T00:06:48Z")
For those wondering why. Its because the universe needs to know itself. By reflecting upon us. ---
**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cabin\_Fever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/37 "2012-09-16T00:17:05Z")
We contract to cosmic focal point. And then expand to bring the fruits. But we went too far in. But thats ok. Well not ok, we needed saving. But that meant a bumper harvest. ---
**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cabin\_Fever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/38 "2012-09-16T00:27:15Z")
Anyway, just a few thoughts a year on… ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/39 "2012-09-16T00:31:51Z")
> [@Cabin\_Fever](#): > > Anyway, just a few thoughts a year on… Drugs? It’s drugs, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cabin\_Fever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/40 "2012-09-16T00:48:32Z")
You mean like a kind of anniversary? Pretty much! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902.md?page=3)