# The brain is not the ultimate creator **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 2, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902 "2011-09-02T00:23:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/41 "2012-09-16T09:01:03Z")
Doing dope on the Dope, huh? If you think your default state of consciousness is an illusion, why would you think some other altered state is the real deal? Drugs that invoke cognitive dissonance make feel like you’re gaining deeper insight and seeing wondrous truths in some meta reality. But the likely scenario is, you’re enhancing, reconfiguring, or stripping away some profound operation of the brain that feels like you’re really part of something bigger, or some aspect of being part or as one with the universe/existence. Then, the vast knowledge and instinct your brain contains starts making some very interesting, abstract connections you probably could never fathom otherwise. I watched the documentary on DMT, [“The Spirit Molecule”](http://thespiritmolecule.com/) (healthy skepticism required, some woo and sensationalism… but otherwise very interesting), and was pretty convinced it’s just a wild experience one has when you induce a profoundly effective chemical that alters your consciousness in a fascinating way. This seems to be the most intense. But the subjects seem to want to believe in this “metaverse” because their visions were so euphoric and awesome; I can’t blame them. However, all their experiences, while holding some similarities, didn’t necessarily corroborate any others. It seemed more of a vivid, ride inside your own mind-space. Other drugs that have similar “trips”, 'shrooms, weed, LSD, etc., are more low-level, muted forms of DMT’s effect, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/42 "2012-09-17T07:32:26Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Other drugs that have similar “trips”, 'shrooms, weed, LSD, etc., are more low-level, muted forms of DMT’s effect, I believe. I’ve heard it said that if LSD is like “riding a magical bike through a magical forest”, DMT is like “riding a scud rocket into a black hole.” Also, that while an LSD trip takes about twelve hours (give or take), DMT only takes about fifteen minutes or so. ---
**Author:** ![gunnergoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e95f7d/32.png) [@gunnergoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gunnergoz)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/43 "2012-09-17T09:02:32Z")
It’s all in your mind. What’s left of it, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/44 "2012-09-17T18:13:51Z")
> [@Cabin\_Fever](#): > > So what was learned from all this? > > We can only see what light reveals. > > We cannot see light itself. I’d say that was heavy, but photons have no mass. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902/45 "2012-09-17T18:43:24Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > Well, if it’s not the brain, then what is it, smart guy?! The vagina, duh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-brain-is-not-the-ultimate-creator/594902.md?page=2)