# The British Queen was in Dublin today.

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 17, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223 "2011-05-17T17:33:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/21 "2011-05-18T14:56:52Z")

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Sorry. I didn’t believe I was hijacking an “unrelated thread.” The OP, **An Gadaí** , mentioned that there was some unrest and displeasure with the Queen visiting Ireland.

I mentioned that similar unrest was planned when other members of said royal family will be visiting Canada this summer, yes specifically in Quebec. When questioned on it I provided a link to a news story about The Reseau de resistance du Quebec, and their plan to “make the royal couple’s first official Canadian tour as ‘unpleasant as possible.’”

I have no dislike for Quebec. This is MPSIMS. I was responding in kind to the OP.

I shall leave here now, and really don’t get what, if anything I did incorrectly. 😕

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/22 "2011-05-18T15:02:27Z")

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So, did you get Sir Elton’s autograph, or not?[G,D,RLH]

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/23 "2011-05-18T15:10:38Z")

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> [@spark240](#):
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> Back to Ireland… the Garden of Remembrance visit seems nice, and republicans _could_ take it as an acknowledgment of the justice of the comnemorated struggles.

Who exactly does the Garden commemorate? Does it include Provos?

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/24 "2011-05-18T15:13:56Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> Way to hijack the thread you guys, sheesh. I must start talking about boiled potatoes in the next thread about poutine.

I larfed!

> [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](#):
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> It’s **Leaffan**. What am I supposed to do when he hijacks an unrelated thread to insist that my kind is going to take on the streets screaming to protest a visit by some random couple of newlyweds? I know English Canadians just plain don’t like Quebecers, but this was totally out of left field.
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> But I won’t say anything further about it in this thread. **Leaffan** , if you’re angry about those Frenchies bringing shame to your country, invite us to the Pit and I’ll follow you there.

To a person, every Canuck Anglophone I’ve ever spoken to who’s voiced an opinion on Francophones/Quebecers (and my apologies for pegging anyone wrong, as I understand it ‘Quebecois’ is any Quebec resident regardless) has spoken of them glowingly. Those Anglos who work side by side w/ Francophones in Quebec seem to do so happily and outside of Quebec I’ve only heard kind things said; heck I know one Anglo who spoke of knowing Francophone women in much the same way Jimmy Carter wanted to know the Polish people.

**An Gadai** , I’m so glad you started this thread! When I saw the pictures yesterday of HRM I was surprised to see her dressed in green; isn’t that some kind of big deal?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/25 "2011-05-18T15:16:11Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> I was surprised to see her dressed in green; isn’t that some kind of big deal?

Only in America on Paddy’s Day.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/26 "2011-05-18T15:22:29Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> Only in America on Paddy’s Day.

So, I guess the days of wearing green being somehow politically/civilly offensive are past?

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/27 "2011-05-18T15:42:31Z")

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I was happy to hear that HRH was generally met with good graces and hope this will begin a better relationship between two neighboring nations. I hear that she is visting the Guinness HQ today to witness the pouring of a pint. She won’t partake being a teatotaler (new information for me), but few things are more ‘Irish’ than Guinness so at least she is making the effort.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/28 "2011-05-18T15:57:32Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> Who exactly does the Garden commemorate? Does it include Provos?

Irish freedom fighters up to 1921. No provos included.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/29 "2011-05-18T16:00:08Z")

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> [@Gagundathar](#):
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> I was happy to hear that HRH was generally met with good graces and hope this will begin a better relationship between two neighboring nations. I hear that she is visting the Guinness HQ today to witness the pouring of a pint. She won’t partake being a teatotaler (new information for me), but few things are more ‘Irish’ than Guinness so at least she is making the effort.

Meh, it’s part of Diageo’s product portfolio. I find the international emphasis on Guinness as this amazing Irish thing depressing. It’s somewhat akin to talking about “Coca-cola!” when you meet an American.

I didn’t know she was teetotal, she obviously didn’t take after her ma in that regard!

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/30 "2011-05-18T16:32:25Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> I didn’t know she was teetotal, she obviously didn’t take after her ma in that regard!

If she is teetotal then it must be something new – she’s certainly been known to have a drink in the past.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/31 "2011-05-18T20:18:02Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> Way to hijack the thread you guys, sheesh. I must start talking about boiled potatoes in the next thread about poutine.

You missed an opportunity to say “talking about poitín in the next thread about poutine.”

> [@WotNot](#):
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> If she is teetotal then it must be something new – she’s certainly been known to have a drink in the past.

In a news article I saw, she said she didn’t want to impair her judgment so early in the day. Because a few sips of 4.2% would leave her reeling? It also said that Phillip “gazed at the brew with obvious longing,” which I can really picture.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/32 "2011-05-18T21:06:50Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> In a news article I saw, she said she didn’t want to impair her judgment so early in the day. Because a few sips of 4.2% would leave her reeling? It also said that Phillip “gazed at the brew with obvious longing,” which I can really picture.

Well now, she’s an 85-year-old with a busy schedule and limited opportunities for toilet breaks — if she prefers to err on the side of caution, I can’t honestly blame her.

Though it does sound more like a polite way of saying “No thanks, I can’t abide the stuff”. I believe her tastes run more towards the occasional glass of Mateus Rosé.

Prince Phillip is known to enjoy a can of John Smiths with his lunch, though, when he can get it. I’m sure a Guinness would be right up his street.

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**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/33 "2011-05-19T00:09:25Z")

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The Speech.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaEdv7d4k-k)

My favourite part is right at the end during the toast. You can hear her saying to someone, “I like this clinking glass”

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/34 "2011-05-19T00:29:36Z")

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The Queen of England speaking Irish, gas!

In other news, Obama’s “coming home” later in the week. Busy times.

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**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/35 "2011-05-19T01:04:46Z")

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You must admit, she’s a pretty decent person.

She didn’t need to do that, or anything really, to score political points.

I like her, and any goodwill she can spread anywhere in the world should be welcomed.

ETA: This is in response to the YouTube link.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/36 "2011-05-19T01:14:46Z")

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I don’t have to admit anything. To be honest, I was kinda touched by her wreath-laying at the Garden of Remembrance. Anyway, I’m anti-monarchist (in all countries). I find it interesting that a sectarian and in the most specific sense, racist, institution is allowed be the figurehead of a great modern nation. Anyway this is straying a wee bit too much into Great Debates territory. Let’s have a bit of [Jerusalem](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ0oCmDXrVk).

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-british-queen-was-in-dublin-today/582223/37 "2011-05-20T00:47:14Z")

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I saw her on the news this morning attending some gala in Dublin, then to a horse stud outside Dublin. She does those attendances so well.

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