# The Bundys are at it again. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 3, 2016, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043 "2016-01-03T04:49:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 183
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3641 "2018-07-15T01:09:12Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Do Not Stop On The Highway To Gawk At Bears And Feed Them Cheetos This feels like it bubbled up from subconscious fears about current events, and now I’m scared. Are we feeding our Cheeto to the bear? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3642 "2018-07-15T01:13:49Z")
> [@Amara\_1](#): > > QFT. We just had a 300 acre fire that threatened houses (evacuation orders were issued). The investigators believe it was caused by a backfiring pickup on the road. We had the Santa Rosa fire last year that destroyed entire neighborhoods and FAST. Fire in the West is scary and serious. I suspect that most people out here support the “at least 5 years” sentencing rule. Yes we do, especially the AT LEAST part. … posted from southern California, where fires are a real and serious thing… where homes are lost and people sometimes DIE. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3643 "2018-07-15T01:37:56Z")
[For instance](https://apnews.com/fa17b8c0d05f4be5b381ae02c58e5fa6/Firefighter-killed-in-wildfire-near-Yosemite-National-Park): > [@](#): > > A second-generation California firefighter who was using a bulldozer to prevent a wildfire from spreading was killed Saturday near Yosemite National Park, state fire officials said. > > Heavy Fire Equipment Operator Braden Varney, 36, died in the morning hours, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said. > > The blaze broke out Friday night in Mariposa County, near the west end of Yosemite National Park and Sierra National Forest. Fire officials said it had burned about 150 acres (61 hectares). > > Varney worked through the night and was driving the bulldozer to cut a firebreak to keep the fire from extending into a nearby community, according to fire chief Nancy Koerperich. > > Investigators were working to determine further circumstances surrounding Varney’s death, but they believe he was working his way out of the fire area when he was killed, Koerperich said. > [@](#): > > He is survived by his wife, Jessica, daughter Malhea, 5, and son Nolan, 3. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3644 "2018-07-15T02:00:58Z")
If we’ve learned one thing this week, it’s that the Blue Lives Matter crowd–who insist that the police should always be given the benefit of the doubt, and that those who disobey them deserve anything they get–feel differently when the law enforcement agency in question is the FBI or the Bureau of Land Management. (Not that this should shock anybody.) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3645 "2018-07-15T05:02:36Z")
**Ultravires** you’re being an ass and you’re dead wrong on this one. Take a look at the [Eagle Creek Fire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Creek_Fire), or the October 2017 Firestorm in Northern California for examples of little fires getting out of control quickly. Fire is a thing with which you ought not fuck in dry conditions. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3646 "2018-07-15T05:24:47Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > This feels like it bubbled up from subconscious fears about current events, and now I’m scared. Are we feeding our Cheeto to the bear? I hope not, I don’t want your president to come to my country even for the Feeding of the Bears. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3647 "2018-07-15T05:54:11Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > **Ultravires** you’re being an ass and you’re dead wrong on this one. Take a look at the [Eagle Creek Fire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Creek_Fire), or the October 2017 Firestorm in Northern California for examples of little fires getting out of control quickly. Fire is a thing with which you ought not fuck in dry conditions. Yes, a good chunk of my hometown burned down in the [2017 fires](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubbs_Fire) including over 2800 homes. I still have my breath mask on my desk from that. Fires can get really big and really destructive really fast under the right conditions. And “But I didn’t _mean_ to hurt anyone” won’t lessen the damage in the slightest, nor will it raise the dead. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3648 "2018-07-15T11:54:58Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > But anyway, the point is that, yeah, often people who aren’t from here in the US West simply have no appreciation for what exactly a forest fire can be and sometimes is. It’s no fault of their own they have no experience or first-hand reference, perhaps, but I’ve seen it many times over with people hiking, camping, rafting and kayaking out here. That’s fair enough and I withdraw my statements. I am from the eastern US where we routinely burn off brush and undergrowth. However, we don’t have these massive forest fires because I guess that there is more moisture and natural fire breaks. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3649 "2018-07-15T17:35:04Z")
You’re from Appalachia, right? You’re well away from the [Dry Line.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_line) I’m from the humid, humid Ozarks. We have enough Gulf moisture not to be prone the really big fires. But even here, there are short-term burn bans. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3650 "2018-07-15T17:53:53Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Posts on Stormfront, which I will not link to, are claiming that they brought support trailers with supplies. If true, I suppose they could hold out for a while. > > Maybe they can be tried in absentia, convicted, and that building can be declared a federal prison. Okay, probably not, but I like the thought. These guys will have thought of everything and will effortlessly stay put for months. Or not. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3651 "2018-07-15T18:59:17Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > That’s fair enough and I withdraw my statements. I am from the eastern US where we routinely burn off brush and undergrowth. However, we don’t have these massive forest fires because I guess that there is more moisture and natural fire breaks. Thank you for walking back your comments; I appreciate how difficult that can be be in a very public forum like this and commend you for taking in new information and allowing yourself to acknowledge it. To keep fighting the good fight against ignorance, please try and stay up on just the Yosemite fire mentioned by me in [post #3462](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21085904&postcount=3642). Remember: the guy who died? Well [that fire has now burned over six square miles of land, is out of control](https://apnews.com/1dbca3bd849d40289cc9c51bf351b736/Deadly-fire-shuts-down-key-route-to-Yosemite-National-Park) and has caused the authorities to cut off electricity to at least parts of the Yosemite Valley. This is our reality in the American West. > [@](#): > > The blaze that broke out Friday scorched more than 6 square miles (16 square kilometers) of dry brush along steep, remote hillsides on the park’s western edge. It was burning largely out of control, and officials shut off electricity to many areas, including Yosemite Valley, as a safety precaution. > > Some evacuations were ordered in rural communities, and people in lodges and motels near the park were told to be ready to leave if flames approach. A stretch of State Route 140 into Yosemite was closed, and motorists were urged to find alternate routes. > > Spiking temperatures and inaccessible terrain was making it difficult for crews to slow the flames, U.S. Forest Service fire Capt. Mike Seymour said. Of course, feel free to stay on top of developments for the other 55 major fires going right now. > [@](#): > > The wildfire is one of several burning across the state and among 56 large blazes that are active in the U.S., most in the American West, a region that is struggling with drought and heat. > > A blaze near the California-Oregon border that killed a 72-year-old resident and injured three firefighters was almost entirely contained after burning more than 60 square miles (155 square kilometers) of dry brush. > > Crews got full control over a stubborn fire that scorched 142 square miles (368 square kilometers) of brush and destroyed 20 structures in Yolo and Napa counties. Investigators said an electric livestock fence that was improperly installed sparked the flames. Again, because I don’t want it to be lost: good on you for learning and re-formulating your opinion. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3652 "2018-07-15T19:50:28Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > That’s fair enough and I withdraw my statements. I am from the eastern US where we routinely burn off brush and undergrowth. However, we don’t have these massive forest fires because I guess that there is more moisture and natural fire breaks. Yes, it’s a whole different set of conditions. I didn’t realize how different, until I moved out here myself. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3653 "2018-07-15T20:51:18Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > That’s fair enough and I withdraw my statements. I am from the eastern US where we routinely burn off brush and undergrowth. However, we don’t have these massive forest fires because I guess that there is more moisture and natural fire breaks. Thank you. At my home, we do burn slash. Stuff that falls off trees and dead fall. It keeps things safer. As long as you do it safely. We have a specific fire pit for it. It’s never done without wetting the ground around it. A hose is always ready to go, and eyeballs are ALWAYS on it. It does not ‘burn’ out. It is put out with dozens of gallons of water. And we would NEVER burn if there is a fire ban. Or if we feel conditions aren’t right. 28 years on this mountain. I’ve seen too much to not be extra, extra cautious. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3654 "2018-07-15T20:56:34Z")
I don’t see what difference it makes. I live on the east coast too and as far as I know arson is still a crime out here, no matter the moisture level of the local flora. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3655 "2020-04-05T23:06:03Z")
[Look who is back in the news](https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/04/ammon-bundy-who-led-malheur-occupation-now-organizing-against-idaho-stay-home-order.html)! ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3656 "2020-04-05T23:21:05Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > [Look who is back in the news](https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/04/ammon-bundy-who-led-malheur-occupation-now-organizing-against-idaho-stay-home-order.html)! They aren’t the only dipshits pushing this view. We have elected leaders in the area that are as certifiably dipshity promoting this “gubmint can’t tell me what to do” view. > **[North Idaho state Rep. Heather Scott pushes back against Gov. Little’s...](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/apr/03/heather-scott-north-idaho-leaders-push-back-agains/)** > > On Thursday, Idaho Rep. Heather Scott urged supporters and constituents to “push back” against the state’s stay-at-home order to help battle the spread of the novel coronavirus and COVID-19. Matt Shea and Heather Scott can go fuck themselves. Their stupidity will get people killed. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3657 "2020-04-06T01:18:46Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Matt Shea and Heather Scott can go fuck themselves. Their stupidity will get people killed. …along with ma-rooons like Coeur d’Alene pastor and state rep. Tim Remington, who [aaaaawww couldn’t hold any more in-person services.](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/apr/02/cda-church-that-resisted-idaho-stay-home-order-sus/) > [@](#): > > The church’s board decided Wednesday that senior pastor and state Rep. Tim Remington – who had called the response to the COVID-19 pandemic “a gimmick” and “a test” during one of two services last Sunday which had about 120 in-person attendees total – will deliver his sermon online this weekend, according to the Facebook post. ETA: why does Bundy have to be such a shitty name? Even Al was bothersome. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3658 "2020-04-06T01:32:30Z")
And don’t get me started on Ted! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3659 "2020-04-06T02:09:10Z")
King Kong Bundy always played a heel in the ring. He passed away just over a year ago, RIP. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3660 "2020-04-06T02:18:50Z")
…which coulda been implied in first sentence. (Scary Debbie Harry story about the guy) (Edit: to KD) > [@](#): > > also from **Spokesman-Review** : > A “reminder” in bold and larger font than the rest of the text [Scott’s moronic push-back on state’s stay-home orders] read: “Unconstitutional edicts do not take precedence over our inalienable rights! Our rights, and the Constitution protecting those rights, do not go away in times of emergency.” This sov-cit malarky is such a tired trope for these dunderheads. How long they can keep on banging the sides of their heads on this drum, who knows. Liked to have heard her explain what she found so unconstitutional about the edict. ETA: > [@Atamasama](#): > > King Kong Bundy always played a heel in the ring. > > He passed away just over a year ago, RIP. Actually, forgot about him. (hand to heart) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043.md?page=182) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043.md?page=184)