# The Bundys are at it again.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 3, 2016, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043 "2016-01-03T04:49:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3661 "2020-04-07T06:27:00Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> I agree. However, the federal arson law is so broad that it could apply to almost anything:
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> > [@18 USC 844 (i)](#):
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> > Whoever **maliciously** damages or destroys, or **attempts to damage or destroy** , by means of fire or an explosive, any building, vehicle, or other real or personal property used in interstate or foreign commerce or in any activity affecting interstate or foreign commerce shall be imprisoned for not less than 5 years and not more than 20 years, fined under this title, or both;
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> It seems like smoking a cigarette is arson punishable by a mandatory minimum of 5 years in prison, or indeed, burning an American flag.

Is **UltraVires** really a lawyer? The above seems unusually stupid.

… Unless he managed to overlook the key words in his own cite, which I’ve now highlighted for him.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3662 "2020-04-07T23:41:57Z")

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Did any of these shitheads lift a finger to help Texas ranchers who have had land seized in order to build that useless border wall?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3663 "2020-04-07T23:49:03Z")

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Of course not. And that wall isn’t useless. It shows that their hero hates the same people they do. What more do you want from your [del]dictator[/del] president?

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3664 "2020-04-13T23:21:09Z")

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60 dipshits showed up to prove how stupid they really are:

> **[In Idaho, Far-Right Republicans Defy Coronavirus Health Restrictions](https://www.npr.org/2020/04/13/832961674/in-idaho-far-right-republicans-defy-coronavirus-health-restrictions)**
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> In the rural Northwest, far-right elected officials and the militia movements they're aligned with are calling for defiance of stay-at-home orders like the one issued by Idaho's Republican governor.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3665 "2020-04-13T23:26:41Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> 60 dipshits showed up to prove how stupid they really are:
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> [In Idaho, Far-Right Republicans Defy Coronavirus Health Restrictions : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2020/04/13/832961674/in-idaho-far-right-republicans-defy-coronavirus-health-restrictions)

May all of them, and the elected officials who spout the same rhetoric, personally find out just how wrong they are.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3666 "2020-07-17T02:35:55Z")

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Dipshits are back at it again.  
  
Fuck them and their pocket constitution.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3667 "2020-07-17T02:38:45Z")

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You really expect folks to click on a 24-minute video to figure out whatever it is you’re talking about? How about a one-sentence summary so we can tell if we’re interested.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3668 "2020-07-17T05:30:02Z")

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Apparently, Ammon [showed up at SW District Health](https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/its-not-right-ammon-bundy-health-officials-share-differing-views-on-confrontation-at-board-meeting-southwest-district-health-mask-mandate/277-8740455c-620c-4507-9af0-e435b80ab874) in Caldwell (about 40 miles from where he lives) demanding to attend a meeting about mask guidelines. There was a kerfuffle. The meeting was ultimately canceled.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3669 "2020-07-20T13:50:01Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> You really expect folks to click on a 24-minute video to figure out whatever it is you’re talking about? How about a one-sentence summary so we can tell if we’re interested.

Sorry, I did intend to post a link to the article. And thanks to [eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal) for correcting my blunder.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3670 "2020-07-23T21:58:33Z")

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I just posted this link in another thread but I wanted to share it here.

Sometimes I go off on tangents when I’m reading the news. Today is was thinking “ The Bundy’s aren’t exactly fans of federal law enforcement. I wonder if they have anything to say about Portland and Black Lives Matter”. I was expecting either hypocrisy or convenient silence.

Instead, I found this 24 minute video in which Bundy voices his support for Black Lives Matter and Defund the Police, and excoriates his fellow “patriots” for not supporting him, and sending him hate messages and threats when they found out he was intending on going to a Portland BLM rally. (He didn’t go, in large part because of the threats) He basically told them to go fuck themselves.

Strange bedfellows, a stopped clock is right twice a day, the enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that. He’ll probably do something stupid again in a few days but I’m actually kind of impressed by this.

> **[Ammon Bundy - Black Lives Matter defund the police rally tomorrow. July 20 2020](https://www.bitchute.com/video/kmob2RYbJld7/)**
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> Ammon Bundy facebook https://www.facebook.com/1115723640/videos/10222056323093209

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3671 "2020-07-23T22:25:20Z")

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He’s a Sov Cit type. He hates all law enforcement. I would guess he’s also a racist, but just hates law enforcement more.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3672 "2020-07-23T22:47:04Z")

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Even a blind nut occasionally finds a squirrel.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3673 "2020-07-23T23:06:49Z")

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[quote=“Ann\_Hedonia, post:3670, topic:742043, full:true”]  
Strange bedfellows, a stopped clock is right twice a day, _the enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that._ He’ll probably do something stupid again in a few days but I’m actually kind of impressed by this. [/quote] Italics mine.

I prefer the “Schlock Mercenary” version of that quote, to wit: The enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy. No more. No less." It strikes me as much more practical.

That said, at least he seems consistent in his beliefs, which is more than most of the SovCit can say, IMHO.

Press on.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3674 "2020-08-25T15:54:12Z")

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More shenanigans from Bundy and his cult of morons.

> **[Spectators shatter glass door to get into Idaho Legislative session](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/aug/24/spectators-shatter-glass-door-to-get-into-idaho-le/)**
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> BOISE – Angry, maskless spectators forced themselves into the Idaho House special session on the coronavirus pandemic Monday, shattering a glass door, rushing into the gallery that had limited seating because of the virus and forcing lawmakers to ask...

Video of Bundy dropping his pearls of wisdom:

> **[Ammon Bundy and followers force their way into House special session](https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/article245229570.html)**
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> Aug. 24: Ammon Bundy and protesters force their way into the House gallery at the beginning of the Idaho Legislature's special session.

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**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3675 "2020-08-25T16:22:28Z")

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I notice there are no riot police or tear gas. Glass was broken. I thought that was the universal sign of a dangerous riot in progress. Where are the feds?

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3676 "2020-08-25T16:25:06Z")

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I noticed the same thing. Some of these folks were even armed. I wonder what the difference could be? I did notice some fairly uniform skin color…wonder if that might be part of it? 🙄

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3677 "2020-08-25T17:11:58Z")

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> [@Strassia](#):
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> I notice there are no riot police or tear gas. Glass was broken. I thought that was the universal sign of a dangerous riot in progress. Where are the feds?

The police were right there:

> [@](#):
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> After some people shoved their way past Idaho State Police, Republican House Speaker Scott Bedke allowed the gallery to fully open as long as the crowd stopped chanting and was respectful.
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> “I want to always try to avoid violence,” he told the Associated Press later. “My initial reaction of course was to clear the fourth floor. But we had room for at least some more.”

See, kids? Threats of violence CAN get you what you want.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3678 "2020-08-25T17:24:05Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Video of Bundy dropping his pearls of wisdom:
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> [https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/article245229570.html](https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/article245229570.html)

Oh, “pearls”, I misread that as “pants” on first glance and thought, why would I click on that??

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3679 "2020-08-25T18:34:46Z")

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Where can I find some of these “pants of wisdom”? My half-orc fighter is -1 on wisdom and I can use all the help I can get.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3680 "2020-08-25T18:48:32Z")

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You have to go to the tavern and trade with a shady looking character in the back. The password is “cofeve”

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