# The Bundys are at it again.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 3, 2016, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043 "2016-01-03T04:49:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3761 "2021-04-21T13:21:19Z")

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Attention whores of this caliber, unfortunately, stick around.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3762 "2021-04-21T15:14:41Z")

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Well, yeah. The smaller calibre slugs are harder to dig out.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3763 "2021-04-26T21:37:16Z")

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Mr. Bundy’s mediation session was supposed to take place today.

> **[Ammon Bundy case heads to mediation](https://idahonews.com/news/local/ammon-bundy-case-heads-to-mediation)**
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> The ongoing Ammon Bundy case is headed to mediation. A judge on Friday scheduled Bundy to head to a mediation conference with Magistrate Judge GregKalbfleisch, who's out of northern Idaho on April 26. Mediation is an attempt for both parties, along...

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3764 "2021-05-17T13:45:19Z")

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I just did another check and I _cannot_ confirm that the mediation happened as scheduled.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3765 "2021-05-28T23:13:03Z")

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A good friend asked me this morning what I thought the GOP’s blocking of the 6 January commission would mean, where it would lead…

“several months of quiet followed by right-wing militia attacks, is my guess” was my reply.

A couple of hours later, this got posted on the AP:

> **[Farmers buy land, make camp by shut Oregon irrigation canal](https://apnews.com/article/oregon-environment-and-nature-government-and-politics-2951d28552c0850bbad5a70296fbf753)**
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> KLAMATH FALLS, Ore. (AP) — Two farmers with ties to anti-government activist Ammon Bundy have purchased land by a shut-off irrigation canal in Oregon that would normally deliver water to a massive federal irrigation project along the...

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> Two farmers with ties to anti-government activist Ammon Bundy have purchased land by a shut-off irrigation canal in Oregon that would normally deliver water to a massive federal irrigation project along the California-Oregon border and have set up a protest encampment there, Jefferson Public Radio [reports](https://www.ijpr.org/environment-energy-and-transportation/2021-05-23/irrigators-set-up-encampment-next-to-klamath-project-headgates).
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> The move comes after federal regulators shut off all water deliveries from the project’s main “A Canal” due to extreme drought and the need to balance the water demands of farmers with threatened and endangered fish species in the Upper Klamath Lake and Klamath River.
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> The last time water was substantially cut off to farmers, in 2001, demonstrators forced open the canal’s head gates three times before federal marshals arrived and stayed all summer. They also held a “bucket brigade” that attracted national media attention and stirred calls by some in the Republican Party for a re-examination of the Endangered Species Act.
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> The two men who purchased the land near the canal, Dan Nielsen and Grant Knoll, have set up an information center at the site along with local members of the Oregon chapter of People’s Rights Network, a group founded by Bundy last year, the radio station reported.

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> Nielsen and Knoll are both landowners who receive irrigation water from the project. Knoll is also a member of the Klamath Irrigation District board of directors, which oversees a majority of Klamath Project land.
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> Nielsen told JPR he and Knoll decided to buy the property so they have a place to gather where they can’t be “run off” by the federal government.
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> “The only thing separating us from the headgates is a chain link fence,” Nielsen said, adding that he’s in regular contact with Bundy. “It’s good access, all right.”

They’re setting up for a fight. They want the fight. They’re saying they want the fight. And so far, every time a Bundy has done this, they’ve walked away, even when someone else gets killed.

Ammon Bundy has tens of thousands of followers all over the US right now. They have money and guns and the _desire_ to use them. He’s also running for governor of Idaho.

> **[Anti-government activist Ammon Bundy runs for Idaho governor](https://apnews.com/article/ammon-bundy-idaho-health-coronavirus-pandemic-174631836541cfeb4bd533686f31a725)**
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> BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Anti-government activist Ammon Bundy is running to be Idaho's next governor, according to documents filed Friday with the Secretary of State's office.

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2021, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3766 "2021-05-29T12:33:43Z")

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> Anti-government activist Ammon Bundy runs for Idaho governor

Zero irony here.

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3767 "2021-05-30T23:04:21Z")

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It’s even worse than the lack of irony. The field of candidates is…I am desperately trying to convince my parents to move to Bend Oregon, where my cousin lives. At least there they would have a chance to be surrounded by normal (to mean not tongue dragging dipshits and crazy people as populate out state government right now). I’m sort of fearful for their well being.

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3768 "2021-05-30T23:21:22Z")

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My cousin gets a newspaper from a major small town in northern Idaho (the less Mormon part). Even up there, the less red part of the state, there is a lot of serious stupid and no small quantity of cray-cray.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2021, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3769 "2021-05-31T04:45:18Z")

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Mom lives in Idaho. We live in Arizona. Its hard to play the “your crazies are crazier than our crazies” game because we both agree that our crazies are the craziest ones. The Bundy’s are edging out the recount, though.

Chewbaca needs to step up to the plate, he’s been slacking since his lawyer said he should be released because he was in solitary confinement which was inhuman. He’s in solitary because he’s a shaman and can’t sully his aura with vaccines or some such shit.

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3770 "2021-06-04T13:29:15Z")

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Not Bundy, but Bundy-like and in the same state. Maybe we can rename thread this “idiots of Idaho”? Like Florida Man but with more guns, lifted pickups and wet dreams of civil war.

> **[Concerns about ex-comic starting a 'Ruby-Ridge-style compound' roil Boundary...](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/jun/04/concerns-about-ex-comic-starting-a-ruby-ridge-styl/)**
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> GOOD GRIEF, IDAHO – Glen Oakes took a ride on his four-wheeler to the dead end of Earl Lane Road in northern Boundary County on Wednesday morning to do something many of his neighbors have been reluctant to do: Welcome the new occupants of a recently...

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3771 "2021-06-09T17:22:27Z")

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And today I found out that there is a community called “Good Grief” in Idaho.

Good Grief is an unincorporated community in Boundary County, Idaho. It was “saluted” in the early 1970s on the television show Hee Haw by saying:

> Population: Three people, two dogs and one old grouch.

> **[How 'Hee Haw' put the town of Good Grief, Idaho on the map in the 1970s](https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/208/history-of-goof-grief-idaho-small-town/277-5a8ebf77-6f0f-43d8-bffb-e29cfd53cf8e)**
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> This small area in North Idaho managed to become an exclamation point instead of a dot on the map.

> It’s not quite the picture painted by the 1970s variety show “Hee Haw,” but it’s pretty close.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3772 "2021-06-09T20:22:38Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> It’s not quite the picture painted by the 1970s variety show “Hee Haw,” but it’s pretty close.

Hee Haw forgot to mention the infestation of racists.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3773 "2021-06-09T21:43:30Z")

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Why do you think that old grouch was so grouchy?

😃

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3774 "2021-06-10T01:08:57Z")

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We took a road from Montana into Idaho that gets very little traffic, just to experiment with alternatives. Passing through the location that the map calls “Avery”, we saw a sign calling for the borders to be secured. Darn those darn illegal immigrants!

This was in the north-bumfuckiest part of the country, on a turn through the high Bitterroots, fifty miles from the nearest actual town. The person who put that sign on their fence might not even recognize a ferrner if they saw one. But, darn it, secure that thousand-mile-away border!

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3775 "2021-06-10T01:47:12Z")

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He probably meant the border around _his_ place. And a ferrner is someone who eats avocados.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3776 "2021-06-10T15:08:17Z")

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Avery is an odd place. It relies on affluent fly fisherman and redneck ATV/SXS riders. The only immigrant workers they might ever see are the tree planting crews Idaho Dept of Forestry hires and I’m guessing those folks avoid Avery. But, your assessment is pretty close to spot on except for the “north-bumfuckiest” part. You have to get up to Bonners Ferry and Good Grief (see above) for that apt title.

A recent article about Idaho governments veering off of the already far-right rails it is running on:

> **[Far-right Idaho Republicans battle to control party, state](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/jun/08/deep-red-idaho-sees-growing-clash-between-gop-and-/)**
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> The dream world for Idaho’s ascendant far right is one where state lawmakers run a sovereign nation-state free of federal oversight. It would be a place where they can outlaw all abortions, dictate what is taught in schools, have complete say over...

Soon, this state will be run entirely by Sov-Cit nutbags who will spend their days making sure all US flags in the state have the required gold fringe.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3777 "2021-06-10T15:47:58Z")

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That means admiralty courts in a landlocked state. Horrors!

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3778 "2021-06-10T17:40:38Z")

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Won’t be landlocked once they invade Oregon.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3779 "2021-06-10T17:55:48Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Soon, this state will be run entirely by Sov-Cit nutbags who will spend their days making sure all US flags in the state have the required gold fringe.

Minor nitpick (nutpick?), but the gold fringe is actually what they would want to avoid.

That would indicate the supremacy of fake admiralty or commercial law, which the government imposed on us when we went off the gold standard in 1932, making all debts fake. The free state of Idaho would presumably be run under common law, as our founders intended, so no gold fringe.

Why yes, stewardess, I speak dumbfuck.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3780 "2021-06-10T17:57:35Z")

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Dang it! I wasn’t sure which they liked. Thanks for setting me straight.

I’m cracking up over here from your Airplane! joke!

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