# The Bundys are at it again.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 3, 2016, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043 "2016-01-03T04:49:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3821 "2021-11-04T13:34:11Z")

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He is a tool after all.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3822 "2021-11-04T13:42:35Z")

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I think we can agree if he was a hoe he’d be the wooden blunt bit. Not the sharp effective bit.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3823 "2021-11-04T14:07:04Z")

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I’d say he and his family are more the “welfare queen” class they despise so much. They mooched off the government so long and that’s what they are fighting back against: Having to pay for their use of land they don’t own (they claim they own it, along with 300+ million other “we the people”). Fuck these moochy fucking moochers! Get a fucking job and pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3824 "2021-11-04T14:10:36Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> …Of course, there is the difference between “ho” (a sex worker) and “hoe” (a garden implement)…

As this guy could tell you: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJO7hcinS-U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJO7hcinS-U)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3825 "2021-11-04T14:17:33Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> they claim they own it, along with 300+ million other “we the people”

Pretty sure if you asked Bundy, his definition of “we the people” does not include all three hundred million. His count of who’s a Real American probably only comes up to around a hundred million. And all those other people are living in “our country”.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3826 "2021-11-04T14:19:38Z")

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Most definitely. He only sees about 100 million real “Patriots”.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3827 "2021-11-04T19:04:51Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Most definiteIy. He only sees about 100 million real “Patriots”.

Might be as low as 144k, if his Buy-bull beliefs are where I suspect they are.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3828 "2021-11-04T19:37:05Z")

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Those are his beliefs. I wouldn’t be surprised to see his family dabbling with the FLDS portion. They are a bit more on the violent side, which is very appealing to them.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3829 "2021-11-04T23:16:25Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Might be as low as 144k, if his Buy-bull beliefs are where I suspect they are.

The Bundies are Mormons, aren’t they? Do they believe in the 144k doctrine? I thought that was uniquely Jehovah’s Witnesses doctrine.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3830 "2021-11-05T04:28:53Z")

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The government land he wants use of ain’t going to support even a hundred million unless _certain_ people get far greater access to it than others. I have a feeling I know which certain people he would have in mind.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3831 "2021-11-05T14:44:46Z")

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> [@russian\_heel](#):
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> Fine—firebomb them.

You got to fireboard these mamajamas.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3832 "2021-11-05T15:04:37Z")

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Is that like waterboarding, but with fire?

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3833 "2021-11-05T16:59:24Z")

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They are fringe Mormons (not polygamists) that follow the teachings of a far-right political/ religious figure named W. Cleon Skousen. Glenn Beck was also a big Skousen follower.

More on the Bundy religious viewpoint.

> **[The Religious Ideology Driving the Bundy Brothers](https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/environment/religious-ideology-driving-bundy-brothers/)**
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> It's not just a hatred of the federal government that motivates the scofflaws—it's their deeply held faith

And Skousen

> **[W. Cleon Skousen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Cleon_Skousen)**
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> Pages for logged out editors learn more
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> Willard Cleon Skousen (/ˈskaʊzən/; January 20, 1913 – January 9, 2006) was an American conservative author with the John Birch Society and a faith-based conspiracy theorist. A notable anti-communist and supporter of the John Birch Society, Skousen's works involved a wide range of subjects including the Six-Day War, Mormon eschatology, New World Order conspiracies, and parenting. His most popular works are The Five Thousand Year Leap and The Naked ...

Ammon Bundy, IMHO, is stupid in the way that people that have been indoctrinated rather than educated can be. He has absolutely no critical thinking skills, speaks in scripture and quotes Bible verses (and the US Constitution) out of context as his justification for everything.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3834 "2021-11-06T06:37:11Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Is that like waterboarding, but with fire?

Exactly.

> **[Fireboarding - Fireboarding added a new photo.](https://www.facebook.com/Fireboarding/photos/a.436710228748/120661033748/?type=1&theater)**
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> Fireboarding. 26 likes. Fire-boarding is a "harsh interrogation technique" (NOT Torture) that some godless liberals say is "

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3835 "2021-11-10T21:35:43Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> The Bundies are Mormons, aren’t they? Do they believe in the 144k doctrine? I thought that was uniquely Jehovah’s Witnesses doctrine.

That’s not Mormon thing, correct.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3836 "2021-11-11T14:13:04Z")

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Poor Bundy didn’t get Trump’s endorsement. That went to another nut-case, Janice McGeachin.

> **[Trump endorses GOP rival of Idaho incumbent governor](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/nov/10/trump-endorses-gop-rival-of-idaho-incumbent-govern/)**
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> BOISE — Former President Donald Trump has endorsed Republican Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin over incumbent Republican Gov. Brad Little in the 2022 race for governor.

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**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3837 "2021-11-11T14:29:48Z")

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Whelp, the state is fucked. She’s practically a shoo-in now and if there’s one person who can out scum the governors of florida and texas it’s this woman.

I’d take that shit heel cruze over her any day

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3838 "2021-11-11T15:21:54Z")

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Yep. I posted something similar over in the omnibus stupid fucks thread lamenting the fact that Trumps backing will probably get her elected. While Little hasn’t been great (well, he’s been downright terrible with the pandemic), he’s at least sane. McGeachin is nuttier than squirrel poop and will harm ID.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3839 "2021-11-11T15:42:36Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> McGeachin is nuttier than squirrel poop and will harm ID.

And they’ll love her for it!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3840 "2021-11-11T16:50:45Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> McGeachin is nuttier than squirrel poop and will harm ID.

They’ll smash themselves in the balls if it will piss off them Liberals! Winning!

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