# The Bundys are at it again. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 3, 2016, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043 "2016-01-03T04:49:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 197
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3921 "2022-04-26T06:26:10Z")
You say that like Princeton’s somehow supposed to be ashamed or embarrassed because one of its best-known and highest-achieving extremely wealthy entertainment-celebrity graduates spent twenty seconds doing a silly party trick on a television talk show. Somehow I don’t think Princeton’s too bothered about it. Believe me, I’ve met several Princeton graduates who have given the university a lot less to be proud of than Shields has. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3922 "2022-04-26T11:48:33Z")
Especially if she learned it _at_ Princeton. It’s all part of a well-rounded education! ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3923 "2022-04-26T13:02:57Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > You say that like Princeton’s somehow supposed to be ashamed or embarrassed because one of its best-known and highest-achieving extremely wealthy entertainment-celebrity graduates spent twenty seconds doing a silly party trick on a television talk show. Sideshow Bob: What about the buffoon lessons, the four years at clown college? Cecil Terwilliger: I’ll thank you not to refer to Princeton that way. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3924 "2022-04-26T15:55:44Z")
Yeah, I’m possibly just making it up but there does seem to be a whiff of gender-specific slut-shaming in the snickers about Shields and Princeton that a male celebrity wouldn’t get. For example, the talk-show host Conan O’Brien pulled many even sillier stunts on television, like dressing up in a crotchprinting spandex superhero costume. But nobody ever seems to dump a sarcastic remark about how “proud” that must make his alma mater Harvard. Like, a male entertainment celebrity who’s really successful can be as ridiculous or indecorous in his publicity appearances as he wants to be, it doesn’t reflect on anybody but himself. But a female entertainment celebrity who’s really successful is still seen as “embarrassing” her associates if she’s behaving “immodestly” in some way. Whoa, this was originally the thread about the Bundys?! We have strayed a bit from the theme. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3925 "2022-04-26T17:09:40Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Whoa, this was originally the thread about the Bundys?! We have strayed a bit from the theme. To pull this theme back to on topic: The town of Princeton, ID isn’t too far from where I live. I can safely say that most of the population of that highly educated town will most likely be voting for Bundy if they get a chance. Same for the residents of the rest of the Idaho Ivy League-like towns: Harvard, Stanford, Vassar, Purdue, Wellesley, and Cornell. OK, most of these are train stops, but, they all still make me chuckle because there is nothing educated going on in those parts. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3926 "2023-04-19T13:37:30Z")
The man who lead two armed standoffs against the US federal government would kindly like us to stop portraying him as violent. What happens when no one is willing to serve him papers? Court cases just disappear? Can you imagine anyone else yelling Sheriffs of their property, particularly someone not quite as white as Bundy? > **[Idaho sheriff refuses to serve Ammon Bundy. St. Luke’s asks justices to weigh in](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2023/apr/18/idaho-sheriff-refuses-to-serve-ammon-bundy-st-luke/)** > > Attorneys for St. Luke’s Health System have asked the Idaho Supreme Court to weigh in after an Idaho sheriff said his office will no longer serve far-right activist Ammon Bundy with legal papers, citing concerns over safety. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3927 "2023-04-19T13:41:38Z")
Gee, I hope he does not find himself in need of medical care any time soon. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3928 "2023-04-19T17:58:52Z")
That would be a real shame. Of course, he’d just pull a gun and demand they treat him. That’s the Pocket Constitutionalist way! ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3929 "2023-04-19T19:21:11Z")
So, let’s say I’m a black guy living in the inner city, and I am subpoenaed or have a warrant out for something. If I threaten the police, does that mean that they will leave me alone? Or is this a privilege that is reserved for white men in Idaho? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3930 "2023-04-19T19:32:46Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Or is this a privilege that is reserved for white men in Idaho? It helps if the police think like you do. I bet they all agree with Bundy. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3931 "2023-04-19T19:44:40Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Or is this a privilege that is reserved for white men in Idaho? I guarantee the outcome would’ve been different if the Sheriffs were trying to serve papers to a black man. This is a white man privilege. > [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > It helps if the police think like you do. I bet they all agree with Bundy. That’s another good point. Most of the elected Sheriffs around here are pro-Bundy mentality. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3932 "2023-04-19T19:47:59Z")
I’d be curious if we have any law-talkin’ folks here with experience in Utah court process. What alternatives to in-person process serving would the court have? Google didn’t give me good indication of how it would work there, but it seems in many jurisdictions it can range from “court drops the case” to “court passes down summary judgement against service refuser”. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3933 "2023-04-19T19:50:05Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I guarantee the outcome would’ve been different if the Sheriffs were trying to serve papers to a black man. This is a white man privilege. I obviously meant that as a rhetorical question. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3934 "2023-04-19T20:01:44Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > Utah court process Bundy is currently infecting Idaho where he recently ran for governor and got 17% of the vote. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3935 "2023-04-19T20:18:44Z")
Well, he’s got an arrest warrant for contempt, now. > **[Idaho judge issues civil arrest warrant for Ammon Bundy, who has ignored St....](https://www.opb.org/article/2023/04/19/idaho-judge-issues-civil-arrest-warrant-ammon-bundy-st-lukes-lawsuit/)** > > An Ada County District Court Judge has issued a civil arrest warrant for Ammon Bundy for repeatedly avoiding court appearances in a lawsuit filed by St. Luke’s Health System. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3936 "2023-04-19T20:26:20Z")
Right. Sorry, confused my Western populist-infested Right Wing Hellhole states. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3937 "2023-04-19T20:30:27Z")
lol…he has his pocket Constitution on proud display in that news article photo! Does this new warrant mean someone with gumption will actually go arrest him and not be shouted off the property? Or will it fall again to the spineless Sheriffs? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3938 "2023-04-19T21:26:14Z")
[You people need a new sheriff.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r8IwbJEwN0) ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3939 "2023-04-19T21:44:00Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Gee, I hope he does not find himself in need of medical care any time soon. Hopefully someone will call 119. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043/3940 "2023-04-19T21:58:58Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > That’s another good point. Most of the elected Sheriffs around here are pro-Bundy mentality. Idaho does have a very large annual production of wheat. Is it possible that the problem is in bread…? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043.md?page=196) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bundys-are-at-it-again/742043.md?page=198)