# The Burning Dog Crater -- Raidlist and other fun things for Cataclysm

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 10, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696 "2010-12-10T20:22:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/61 "2011-01-14T19:22:43Z")

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Jagaya is a JC, but has not yet even begun to level the skill.

That said, I should be able to prospect Obsidium Ore for you if you want. Just send me a tell (on Jag or Darland) or an in-game mail.

Be sure to check ore prices vs. gem prices - you might find it more profitable to buy the gems than the ore.

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**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/62 "2011-01-14T19:35:27Z")

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> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> Well if it’s the lowest caliber, maybe I’ll send my miner into hyjal or vash and just make some mining runs. I’ll still need the JC though, and thanks **SFG** , but there’s a max miner/jc somewhere in the guild. I hope:)  
> I noticed the gems I’m looking for are pretty expensive, I wonder if the ore is also as expensive.

Rahuul’s alt DK is a JC with a skill of around 480, so can prospect both obsidium and elementium. Also, Rahuul is maxed out in Alchemy, so I can contribute to flasks. I’ve just been trying to build up gold supply by transmuting volatiles first.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/63 "2011-01-14T19:40:19Z")

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Yeti is a JC, if he ever gets his computer problems solved. One of Shin Kell’s toons (Kahmu?) is a JC also.

Anyone going to be around tonight and want to run some 5-mans? I need to do heroics (for Keyne) or regulars (for Kene).

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/64 "2011-01-14T19:51:26Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> Yeti is a JC, if he ever gets his computer problems solved. One of Shin Kell’s toons (Kahmu?) is a JC also.

Yeti was around on Wednesday; shipped him a buncha obsidium so he might have some gems still sitting around.

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**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/65 "2011-01-14T19:54:52Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> Yeti is a JC, if he ever gets his computer problems solved. One of Shin Kell’s toons (Kahmu?) is a JC also.
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> Anyone going to be around tonight and want to run some 5-mans? I need to do heroics (for Keyne) or regulars (for Kene).

I’ll try to be on around 10ish tonight. I can either run normal/heroics as boomkin, or run normals as tank though i’ll give you fair warning that I haven’t tanked on my paly since wrath’s 96969 days.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/66 "2011-01-14T21:12:21Z")

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> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> I’m leveling my alchemy so we can work on getting out flasks up. But I need some gems and I haven’t gotten around to leveling my Miner. (Lightbird) Could some kind guildie help me acquire some gems? I’m happy to pay market rate, just would prefer paying guildies instead of AH.  
> Looks like I need:  
> 3 Hessonite  
> 15 Nightstone  
> 15 Zephyrite  
> 15 Alicite
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> Are those common or are any of them like Titanium from Wrath?
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> I have the recipes for some of the flasks already, just need to farm mats for more. Can’t wait for Cauldrons! (Fine, I also want to transform into a dragon!)

My [Jewelcrafting is at 507](http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/cairne/yeticalayla/advanced), so I should be able to help you with some of the stuff your asking for. I can give you the 15 Alcite, got 30+ of them, I think I have enought Zephyrite to cover the 15. Three Hessonite?..No problem. It’s that damn Nightstone that I am out of. There is a JC daily that asks for 3 Timeless nightstones that I have been getting for a quest every other day. I have 0 nightstones atm, and that’s after Muz gave me his obsidium to prospect. I believe I usually get about 1 nightstone per stack prospected, so 15 nightstones might be a little costly. I usually see elementium ore cheaper in the AH than Obsidium ore as of late and you may get better yields of nightstones by prospecting elementium ore. [And then again, maybe not.](http://www.wowhead.com/item=52180/nightstone#prospected-from) But do compare prices in AH before you go buying any ore, if that’s the route you are going. I’ll be more than happy to prospect your ore and make cuts if you need them.

> [@Skammer](#):
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> Yeti is a JC, if he ever gets his computer problems solved. One of Shin Kell’s toons (Kahmu?) is a JC also.

> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Yeti was around on Wednesday; shipped him a buncha obsidium so he might have some gems still sitting around.

Yeah…here’s the thing. My home computer is the currently on the border between FUBAR and POS. Still need more time with Blizzard rep to resolve…SO, I’ve been going on my work computer (don’t tell my wife…she’s the co-owner!) to do some dailies and some AH and even fishing for the Volatile Fires that have been funding my BS and JC skills. I usually go on for a couple of hours in the afternoon…likely on weekdays after 3pm PST for an hour or two…I will mail you what I have from your gem list and if you need something prospected, mail it to me or if you’re on…just invite me to group up and do everything on the spot.

This weekend (including MLK day - Monday), I might not be on at all since I will be home unless I find a reason to be at the office (which will probably not happen). So, unless I resolve the computer issue, I won’t be back until Tuesday. But I will try to be available this afternoon for an hour or two. When I am at the office though, I might be AFK here and there, so be patient. I usually try to pay attention to guild talk and whispers when I get back from some task.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/67 "2011-01-14T21:43:46Z")

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> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> I noticed the gems I’m looking for are pretty expensive, I wonder if the ore is also as expensive.

The blue, green, and purple Uncommon-level gems are used for JC dailies. The orange ones are used for one of the only trained (vs. purchased or dropped) recipes that JCs can use to level past a certain point.

The initial investment for enough ore to prospect everything you need might be steep, but if Cairne’s economy is anything like Korgath Alliance or Area 52 Horde, you should make a chunk of it back on the leftover gems that you sell, as well as having the eventual “cost” of each gem be much less than if you tried to buy them individually.

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**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/68 "2011-01-14T22:03:13Z")

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Thanks for everyone for all the help. I’ll get that going, and then start farming for my sands of time 🙂  
As a side note for all the BDLers, I’ve placed a bunch of extra potions in the guild bank…grab away! Especially since I’m having trouble finding room…except on our glyph page. Should we clear that out? Or are the coppers I’ve been sending to the gbank adding up enough to buy a new tab? 😃

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/69 "2011-01-14T23:21:45Z")

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Just mailed the Alcite, Zephyrite and Hessonite to Rottingbird.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/70 "2011-01-17T14:53:59Z")

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It’s Monday, are folks up for some guild runs tonight? I mostly focused on my baby shammy this week (they grow so fast, _sniff_) but I’m hoping to run Keyne/Kene through some 5-mans (heroic and regular, respectively) tonight.

> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> Or are the coppers I’ve been sending to the gbank adding up enough to buy a new tab? 😃

You know, I’ll bet we have plenty enough money for a new tab; we never spend it on anything as far as I know. We should, however, promote someone to vaultmaster who can do some cleaning out/organizing of the other tabs.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/71 "2011-01-17T14:56:17Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> It’s Monday, are folks up for some guild runs tonight?

I should be up for a heroic or two, or regular if that’s how things turn out.

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**Author:** ![hdc\_bst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9f8e36/32.png) [@hdc\_bst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hdc_bst)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/72 "2011-01-17T16:17:40Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> It’s Monday, are folks up for some guild runs tonight?

I’ll be up for some guild runs - see y’all tonight.

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**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/73 "2011-01-17T18:12:15Z")

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Both Moobird and Rottingbird are still in regulars. If you can’t get 5 for heroics, I’m up for guild runs.  
I saw Yeti took up Vaultmaster promotion. Is he gonna clean us up? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/74 "2011-01-17T18:49:38Z")

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Kene can d/e any gear we don’t need from the vault, and then we can either sell the mats or put them back in the vault for folks who need them for enchants or crafting skill leveling.

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**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/75 "2011-01-17T19:28:00Z")

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I can heal/DPS heroics as Rahuul, or I can tank/heal/dps normals as either Anleroth or (pending hitting 85 today) on Panzera and will be around tonight.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/76 "2011-01-18T14:16:17Z")

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We didn’t have enough folks for heroics last night, but we ran a couple of regular 5-mans to help gear up. Muz tanked Tol’vir with me (Kene) healing and Makig, R-bird and Rahuul on dps. I can only recall one wipe, due to a trash pull where someone got feared into another group of mobs.

Then Muz and Makig had to go, so R-bird swapped out for is tank Moobird and Yeti joined us as dps, and we picked up a pug shammy to come along in HoO. Wiped twice, I think, but overall it was a successful run and we got some good upgrades.

I’ve got to re-examine my healing strategy for Kene though. Unlike on my pally, Kene goes through mana _so fast_ that I have to be doing something wrong. Part of it, I suspect, is that I’m still using too many Flash Heals (although they seem necessary) and part of it is that I need to enlarge my mana pool.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/77 "2011-01-18T15:02:42Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> We didn’t have enough folks for heroics last night, but we ran a couple of regular 5-mans to help gear up. Muz tanked Tol’vir with me (Kene) healing and Makig, R-bird and Rahuul on dps.

It was a fun run. I forgot to watch closely for it - are we getting guild rep for these runs, or only on heroics? Regardless, running the normal was a good choice to build our heroic capable roster, and also to help me up the success rate on ‘square means might or might not be cc’ed with a freezing trap.’

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/78 "2011-01-18T15:07:55Z")

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It seemed to me that I only got guild rep when I turned in the dungeon quests. I only got faction rep for the kills.

You can’t get guild rep by running dungeons in your guild tabard, can you?

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/79 "2011-01-18T15:08:48Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> We didn’t have enough folks for heroics last night, but we ran a couple of regular 5-mans to help gear up. Muz tanked Tol’vir with me (Kene) healing and Makig, R-bird and Rahuul on dps. I can only recall one wipe, due to a trash pull where someone got feared into another group of mobs.

I got into a bit of a “ehh it’s only normal, we can zoom through this” mindset and wasn’t very careful about pulling the patrol that goes up and back the street full of merchants on the way to the third boss, so we wound up fighting them and the 4 pack of mobs near the entrance to the street, which didn’t turn out so well, though we took 2 of the 4 out.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/80 "2011-01-18T15:17:25Z")

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It also didn’t help that my wife was trying to have a conversation with me at the same time.

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