# The Burning Dog Crater -- Raidlist and other fun things for Cataclysm **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 10, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696 "2010-12-10T20:22:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/81 "2011-01-18T16:57:53Z")
I know we got guild xp (not individual rep) from the runs. I think I’ve capped out of guild rep for the week, but I can’t find out where it would say that (in WoW or on the web) I’m hoping it resets today - and that I write down my rep so I know when I’ll run out. As for the run, both of my 85s are pretty horrible dps wise. I just got enough ilvl to queue for heroics, but doing only 4k+ dps I see myself getting booted after one trash mob. Moobird is a pretty passable backup for Muz as tank I guess. I feel like I don’t have a good way to grab mass aggro and end up losing the runners who are drawn towards my AoEers. Needless to say, this is probably the reason Kene ran out of mana. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/82 "2011-01-18T17:02:20Z")
Nah, I ran out of mana with Muz too. Your health went down faster than his but I thought you held aggro pretty well. There was only one or two fights I had to Fade and you usually picked the mobs up quickly after that. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/83 "2011-01-18T17:12:04Z")
Certainly not on purpose 😛 The funniest quote of the run was Rahuul’s comment about having more health than me in moonkin form. I should at least gem up the 333 gear I do have. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/84 "2011-01-18T17:16:52Z")
I really need to buckdown and get the last 20 points of Tailoring I need. That should provide help for both Kene and Rottingbird, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Runestar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Runestar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runestar)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/85 "2011-01-18T17:50:51Z")
I logged on about 15 minutes before the hour, checked the guild roster, and saw that 5 of you were already running an instance. Since it had been a long day, I just logged out of the game and plopped in front of the TV with a magazine. Sounds as though maybe I should have stayed logged in for a while; might have had a chance to run an instance. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/86 "2011-01-18T18:44:14Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > Both Moobird and Rottingbird are still in regulars. If you can’t get 5 for heroics, I’m up for guild runs. > I saw Yeti took up Vaultmaster promotion. Is he gonna clean us up? 🙂 Nah, just clean you out. 😉 Actually, when I got my authenticator, I asked for a promo so I can find myself easier on the guild listing…I mean I could clean it up some…there’s quite a few duplicates that have been sitting around in there for months…one of those should clearly be sold or auctioned. There are some level 80 cut gems that anyone could grab and use without asking permission. > [@Skammer](#): > > Kene can d/e any gear we don’t need from the vault, and then we can either sell the mats or put them back in the vault for folks who need them for enchants or crafting skill leveling. This is probably a better solution especially for the enchanters that are working up ladder. > [@Skammer](#): > > We didn’t have enough folks for heroics last night, but we ran a couple of regular 5-mans to help gear up. Muz tanked Tol’vir with me (Kene) healing and Makig, R-bird and Rahuul on dps. I can only recall one wipe, due to a trash pull where someone got feared into another group of mobs. > > Then Muz and Makig had to go, so R-bird swapped out for is tank Moobird and Yeti joined us as dps, and we picked up a pug shammy to come along in HoO. Wiped twice, I think, but overall it was a successful run and we got some good upgrades. > > I’ve got to re-examine my healing strategy for Kene though. Unlike on my pally, Kene goes through mana _so fast_ that I have to be doing something wrong. Part of it, I suspect, is that I’m still using too many Flash Heals (although they seem necessary) and part of it is that I need to enlarge my mana pool. Felt kind of naked doing a 5-man without any addons whatsoever last night; I was just too worried that I would get another #132 error on log in. I might do one addon tonight and see if I can still get on and play a couple of hours. Probably will load Omen Threat Meter tonight since that seems to be the most useful of the bunch and then follow it up with Deadly Boss Mods. They seem to be pretty stable unless anyone else knows differently. I’m still not out of the woods yet; I did a full reinstall AGAIN (this time using the Cata disk only), and yet it still took the 3rd or 4th log in to get on last night. > [@FlightlessBird](#): > > Certainly not on purpose 😛 > The funniest quote of the run was Rahuul’s comment about having more health than me in moonkin form. I should at least gem up the 333 gear I do have. I think I had the 2nd highest HP in the group, at 111k. **Bird** , send me some Blue gems and I will make +30 and +40 Stam cuts for you! ---
**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/87 "2011-01-19T01:24:12Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > It seemed to me that I only got guild rep when I turned in the dungeon quests. I only got faction rep for the kills. > > You can’t get guild rep by running dungeons in your guild tabard, can you? I’m almost positive I got guild rep after killing the last boss in normal HoO last night. We can try another run one of these days to confirm it for sure. I had a good time with the guild runs–even in boomkin form and I’m growing to dislike DPSing otherwise. Also guild tabard doesn’t have any effect on guild rep or xp. ---
**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/88 "2011-01-19T01:32:29Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > Certainly not on purpose 😛 > The funniest quote of the run was Rahuul’s comment about having more health than me in moonkin form. I should at least gem up the 333 gear I do have. To be fair, I’m in average ilevel 346 gear, fully gemmed, reforged, and chanted with all but three of the best chants (1500G for powerful ghostly spell thread on AH–i’ll wait till prices drop k-thx, likewise with lavawalker and peerless stats for the chest being no shows whenever I check the AH) for a resto Druid. i’m tempted to bite the bullet and start tanking on my other Druid again to get the chaos orbs for the Chestguard of Nature’s fury too. ---
**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/89 "2011-01-19T01:38:36Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > I really need to buckdown and get the last 20 points of Tailoring I need. That should provide help for both Kene and Rottingbird, at least. I’m sending you all the embersilk I can. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/90 "2011-01-19T16:54:35Z")
So last night I started getting guild rep again from completing Cata quests. So I’m not sure how much guild rep I missed out on after capping last week:( Good news is I should get to honored this week. But it will make me take it slower on my next alt (Lightbird) I ran a few quests in Hyjal with him last night just to farm some ore to send to Yeti for prospecting. Is it me or have they turned up the drops from nodes? I’m getting a lot of 3s and 4s from mining and herbing plus extra drops (volatile stuff) ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/91 "2011-01-19T18:52:21Z")
Ok Doggies…I picked up the recipe for [Forged Elementium Mindcrusher](http://www.wowhead.com/item=67605) for all you 2 handers out there…start saving up your orbs, truegolds and hard ele bars. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/92 "2011-01-19T19:02:34Z")
> [@JayRx1981](#): > > I’m sending you all the embersilk I can. 🙂 And I appreciate it! ---
**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/93 "2011-01-19T19:37:41Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Ok Doggies…I picked up the recipe for [Forged Elementium Mindcrusher](http://www.wowhead.com/item=67605) for all you 2 handers out there…start saving up your orbs, truegolds and hard ele bars. Sadly, Chaos orbs are currently BoP and the only way to get them (for now) is the last boss drop in any given heroic for those with a tradeskill profession able to use them. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/94 "2011-01-19T19:38:47Z")
> [@JayRx1981](#): > > Sadly, Chaos orbs are currently BoP and the only way to get them (for now) is the last boss drop in any given heroic for those with a tradeskill profession able to use them. Yeah, pissed me off to no end to get to the end of my first heroic (enchanting/mining) and see the Chaos Orb redded out. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/95 "2011-01-19T19:40:08Z")
Yes, and from now on I’m going to tell every group to all NEED when the orb drops. I’ve only seen one, but the first four of us clicked Greed while the rogue Needed and then whisked away before we could protest. In retrospect, we were dumb. ---
**Author:** ![kjckjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@kjckjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kjckjc)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/96 "2011-01-19T19:44:16Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Kene can d/e any gear we don’t need from the vault, and then we can either sell the mats or put them back in the vault for folks who need them for enchants or crafting skill leveling. I kind of feel we don’t need ANY gear in the bank. If we fill it with mats and the like we usually can make to order any gear anybody needs. I think we need to add at least a 5th tab (we have lots of money) and maybe the 6th. Then maybe try to redesignate the tabs, maybe one for helping starting chars with useful things like various levels of potions, water walking and breathing potions and such. One for glyphs, maybe have the different classes post here what they believe the most useful or common ones are for their class and just make any others to order. A recipe/pattern one (like we have) that is more of a free for all, first come first served, if you can to use it, take it. Perhaps an achievement or rep one with rep turn-ins, maybe the cloths, achievement foods, holiday foods (when they come around), etc. Donno past that, maybe a tab for top level/raiding stuff, highest level mats, etc. On a related note, there is a guild achieve for guild repair, I don’t think we have that turned on or know if we have any interest in that. I would be willing to kick in some gold if we need a fundraider type influx of cash for stuff. Also, sometimes I am just in the mood to farm, the other day I was farming that lava circle fishing and killing elementals for volatile fire, I used a few dozen to get my LWing up a bit and tossed the rest in the GBank, is there any mats that people would like me to farm/fish when I get bored? Thank You, Laradon ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/97 "2011-01-19T19:47:32Z")
Also, if anyone has a wishlist of enchant scrolls, that would be handy to post; Muz has pretty much just been selling em on the AH as he levels up. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/98 "2011-01-19T19:59:34Z")
Lar, I think you’re right about re-organizing the vault. It’s so crammed right now with marginally useful stuff, I don’t know if anyone uses it much. I like the idea of a newbie tab where we can put low-level potions, bags, mats etc. Last time I looked we had way too many green items in there, which are just about useless except to disenchant (since you almost always get better gear while leveling). ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/99 "2011-01-19T20:01:58Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Yeah, pissed me off to no end to get to the end of my first heroic (enchanting/mining) and see the Chaos Orb redded out. It pissed you off to not be able to roll on an item that you have literally no use for? 😕 I mean, I get being pissed off at making the orbs BoP (stupid move, IMO), but they had to block non-crafters from rolling on them: too many people who had no use for the orbs but to delete them were snatching them up. > [@Skammer](#): > > I’ve only seen one [Chaos Orb], but the first four of us clicked Greed while the rogue Needed and then whisked away before we could protest. In retrospect, we were dumb. This is why, when running with PUGs, I always wait to see what the group rolls before I select between Need and Greed. I use an addon called [teksLoot](http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/teksloot.aspx) that is a massive improvement over the default roll window: it’s smaller, it’s moveable, and it gives more information (item quality, BoP or BoE, how many rolls for each option). ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696/100 "2011-01-19T20:04:12Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > It pissed you off to not be able to roll on an item that you have literally no use for? 😕 I mean, I get being pissed off at making the orbs BoP (stupid move, IMO), but they had to block non-crafters from rolling on them: too many people who had no use for the orbs but to delete them were snatching them up. Well, yeah, I’d forgotten they were BoP. Serious WTF decision there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-burning-dog-crater-raidlist-and-other-fun-things-for-cataclysm/563696.md?page=6)